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The Two and a Half Minutes Hate: Birth of a Ritual
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Gaufres
Just Keep Hanging On
#161 - 2014-03-06 16:24:57 UTC
"Nauplius wrote: I am an Amarrian loyal to Jamyl Sarum who wants to glorify God... "

Is this so? You contacted the Theology Council, the Imperial Chancellor and even a representative in the Emperial Family and they all signed off on your slaughter of a million slaves?

I hardly think so. The Empress Jamyl does not appear to publically support those types of activities.

It may be time for you to put down the sword and spend some time back at the Theology Council to clear up any misconceptions you have about the treatment of slaves under your care.
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#162 - 2014-03-06 21:55:29 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
Pontianak Sythaeryn wrote:
My concern is only this, as somebody that also knows about these seeds and trees.

A new tree is most vulnerable to those bigger and more established trees around it. Also it is more vulnerable to the animals that would eat it. What you are talking about, is changing the way the Amarr view their entire theology, this is not an easy task by any means and if those such as Lord Draconis are truly as you say... then they are also the most vulnerable to those that would see this effort squashed to keep things as they are. What is being done to keep the new tree from being infected by it's neighbors?


That may be true, but that is also entirely an Amarrian matter. No outside force will be able to help these trees; in fact, they hinder them. The more wars there are on the borders of the Empire, the more terrorists in its heart, and the more hatred and fear grips the Empire the more they strangle voices for peace and understanding. The only way the Empire will change is while it is at peace, as Heideran's rule thoroughly proved.

Every time a Minmatar fires an autocannon round at an Amarrian ship, they drive a nail into both our coffins.


Youre so cute when you do this victim blaming thing.

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#163 - 2014-03-06 22:43:18 UTC
Gaufres wrote:
"Nauplius wrote: I am an Amarrian loyal to Jamyl Sarum who wants to glorify God... "

Is this so? You contacted the Theology Council, the Imperial Chancellor and even a representative in the Emperial Family and they all signed off on your slaughter of a million slaves?

I hardly think so. The Empress Jamyl does not appear to publically support those types of activities.

It may be time for you to put down the sword and spend some time back at the Theology Council to clear up any misconceptions you have about the treatment of slaves under your care.


I do not consult with the Theology Council, much less the Empress(!) every time I dump some garbage out the airlock, nor do I need to consult with them before offering some subhuman filth up to God — in Khanid space.
Erin Savonarola
Doomheim
#164 - 2014-03-07 00:23:57 UTC
You're a subject of the Kingdom, certainly not an Imperial citizen. You're also a commoner, who should not have slaves in the first place, the Kingdom's laws not withstanding. You speak out of both sides of your mouth, heretic. One side proclaims your devotion to the Empress, the other rejecting her laws and councils.
If the Minmatar are considered subhuman, than surely the Khanid are as well. When we first found the Khanid, you were barbarians, savage warriors untamed by civilization. You killed for fun and valued only strength of force. The True Amarr showed you the light of God and tempered your barbarity with Faith. Now, you have returned to your barbaric roots.
Those that are faithful and humble before God are righteous. Those that are not are subhuman filth.
Straton Technos
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#165 - 2014-03-07 00:28:21 UTC
I find this thread intriguing. Little was I aware that the Amarr people were such advocates of human rights. Perhaps the empire is not as united as it would like us to think. Very good.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#166 - 2014-03-07 01:52:40 UTC
Erin Savonarola wrote:
You're a subject of the Kingdom, certainly not an Imperial citizen. You're also a commoner, who should not have slaves in the first place, the Kingdom's laws not withstanding. You speak out of both sides of your mouth, heretic. One side proclaims your devotion to the Empress, the other rejecting her laws and councils.
If the Minmatar are considered subhuman, than surely the Khanid are as well. When we first found the Khanid, you were barbarians, savage warriors untamed by civilization. You killed for fun and valued only strength of force. The True Amarr showed you the light of God and tempered your barbarity with Faith. Now, you have returned to your barbaric roots.
Those that are faithful and humble before God are righteous. Those that are not are subhuman filth.


Contessa —

If I seem to speak with two minds at times it is because I am a Unionist and a member of an Amarr Corporation, the 24th Imperial Crusade. I do hope that when union comes, it is the Khanid customs surrounding slavery that pervail.
Erin Savonarola
Doomheim
#167 - 2014-03-07 04:11:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Erin Savonarola
Where commoners like yourself hold slaves? Not bloody well likely. Where slaves are massacred en mass? Over my dead body. The economy would collapse in a month, notwithstanding the theological argument.
You do not understand what it means to be a holder. You will never understand what it means to be a holder. You are incapable.
Now, do the cluster, the Kingdom and the Empire a favour and kill yourself. Every moment you continue to breathe is a slight upon the Empress and your King.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#168 - 2014-03-07 10:14:45 UTC
Gaufres wrote:
"Nauplius wrote: I am an Amarrian loyal to Jamyl Sarum who wants to glorify God... "

Is this so? You contacted the Theology Council, the Imperial Chancellor and even a representative in the Emperial Family and they all signed off on your slaughter of a million slaves?

I hardly think so. The Empress Jamyl does not appear to publically support those types of activities.

It may be time for you to put down the sword and spend some time back at the Theology Council to clear up any misconceptions you have about the treatment of slaves under your care.

Oh, and here comes another gallentean upstart, who pokes his huge subhuman nose into Empire affairs.
To make them stop, we should all stay united and destroy their flilthy Federation.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#169 - 2014-03-07 11:31:43 UTC
Erin Savonarola wrote:
Where commoners like yourself hold slaves? Not bloody well likely. Where slaves are massacred en mass? Over my dead body. The economy would collapse in a month, notwithstanding the theological argument.
You do not understand what it means to be a holder. You will never understand what it means to be a holder. You are incapable.
Now, do the cluster, the Kingdom and the Empire a favour and kill yourself. Every moment you continue to breathe is a slight upon the Empress and your King.


Contessa —

I respectfully decline your invitation to kill myself.

As for the economic argument, trillions of potential slaves are available in the Minmatar Republic, Gallente Federation, and Jove Empire. With Vitoc and TCMCs, any or all of them can be made economically productive slaves without possibility of Rebellion.
Erin Savonarola
Doomheim
#170 - 2014-03-07 15:02:11 UTC
You're so conservative, you're liberal!

Regardless, I think you need to talk to Sansha Kuvakei. He's more your style.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#171 - 2014-03-07 15:22:03 UTC
Nah, say what you like about Kuvakei, but Nation's propaganda at least doesn't include such a backwards notion as "subhuman".

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Lucien Rouen
#172 - 2014-03-07 15:40:01 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Oh, and here comes another gallentean upstart, who pokes his huge subhuman nose into Empire affairs.
To make them stop, we should all stay united and destroy their flilthy Federation.


I assume "flilthy" is a portmanteau of "filth" and "flare"? So while you, for some odd reason, think the Federation is filthy, you admit it also has flare?