Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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It goes without saying that it will be totally absurd to roll out the 2 drone policy the worm gets into the gila/RS.









We'll get 3 drones @200%.

Probably 3-4 and 5 drones, with reduced damage bonus.

So is the point of this change to make pirate faction ships more specialized? Isnt the point of them in the first to be versitile?

Guristas potential changes are not looking good to me, and the overshadowed comment I just dont understand why. The Rattlesnake and Gila are the only shield tanked ships that have 125mbps... so please explain how the Domi/Ish and the Rattle/Gila are the same.

In summary I don't want to lose the durability that having 125mbps on Guristas ships or drone capacity which will effect flexability. I really hope that these changes happen to frigates at first and then you see if it really makes the changes you want.

Hey guys,

We need more devs to come in here and act like they're being useful, because in a week's time this thread will be forgotten about when the negativity reaches a "boiling point" as it always has in these threads and we will be ignored once again.

Thanks for your cooperation.

One of the rattlesnakes greatest strengths is the size of it 's drone bay and the ability to switch drone damage types on the fly in the more difficult missions. So cutting down the drone bay's size but increasing the drone DPS seems an odd choice considering the rattlesnake is used for missions mostly. Adjusting the missile bonus does warrant further discussion. =)

ok.

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succubus - shield recharge rate is out of whack ... lasers use too much pg still/needs a nos on it . at least give its pg back
dramiel - heeds a sharper focus .. its too minnie like armour tanking etc..
daredevil - 90% webs are OP either nerf webs or reduce bonus.. i prefer both .. should have dramiels drones
cruor - lasers use more pg than nos/neuts ... more range would help too ..T2 neuts/nos aren't worth using over meta 4

Sansha: Sansha needs help. The Nightmare is getting used, mostly as a PVE platform, but the Succubus and Phantasm are among the least used ships in EVE. That means we have an opportunity to try something new! The theme we are currently excited about revolves around afterburners. By giving a substantial boost to the velocity bonus from afterburners we create an extremely powerful frigate, a lot of new options for the cruiser, and affect the Nightmare the least, which matches well with the impact we want.

can't say much about this, while i understand you want to give them something new, i dont see whats the use of an AB, well out of PvE situations, a bonus of optimal range could be good for it, its not like the nightmare is used with tachyons anyway.

the other could be a capacitor need for the lazors, but i dont think people would agree with that, think of it, the blood raiders are the slow, jamming pirates that use powerdrain and short range lasers to finish their enemies, the sansha are more oriented to be the long rangers that disable the enemies tracking and range so they cant shoot them from afar.

it makes more sense that the sansha's have a range bonus that adds to their good laser damage bonuses, that or a defensive bonus for them, the guristas already cover the resistance bonus, so they could have a shield boost bonus like the minmatar ships, another would be to increase their max velocity, so they can get better speeds both with an AB and a MW


Blood: This line is very similar in some ways to Sansha. We have a battleship in the Bhaalgorn with a unique and valuable niche and then a frigate and cruiser that almost no one uses. The main difference with Blood is that, when it comes to energy warfare, you get very different roles at different sizes even with the same bonus, so it can be difficult to find a way to tie all three together. What we are proposing at the moment is to change the web effectiveness bonus to web range for the Cruor and Ashimmu(which is a broadly useful bonus AND doesn't overlap with Serpentis AND matches the Bhaalgorn) and then to give all three "old NOS", that is, Energy Vampires would continue to leech from your target until their cap reaches zero, regardless of your own cap level. This would be role bonus functionality that stacks on top of the old bonus to energy turret damage as well as the NOS/Neut effectiveness bonus from Amarr. This should offer a lot of new and powerful options to Blood Raiders without having any negative impact on the Bhaalgorn's current role.

not much to discuss about blood raiders, i think the approach you're giving them is good, but i dont know how it pans out for PvE on this, i know they would be really cool for PvP of course

Guristas: This has probably been the hardest faction to figure out. The Rattlesnake and Gila both have their uses but are both overshadowed in many ways by the new Ishtar and Dominix. We wanted Guristas to keep a drone theme but to move in a new and unique direction rather than trying to compete directly with other popular drone ships. As the Worm shows below, we are looking at giving each Guristas ship a bandwidth that allows for only two drones, but a large damage and hitpoint bonus to those drones, leading to very high overall drone damage and toughness. Additionally, the former missile velocity bonus will change to kinetic and thermal missile damage, giving Guristas even more punch. I understand that you will need specifics on the other two Guristas ships to make final opinions on the theme, but for now just look at the Worm and let us know if it seems fun and we'll go from there.

pigeonholing gurista ships to a kin/thermal damage hole would make them even less used, its like the current problem some people have with the kinetic damage bonus of caldari hulls, if you want something unique for the guristas, well, there are other options that hasnt been covered yet, and that is to add one aditional drone per lvl, the only subcap that can do that right now is the guardian vexor, while i see that its a special edition ship, i think the guristas would get a nice feature there