Intergalactic Summit

It's always fascinating that once you give those Amarrians some arguments they can't disprove they are just getting ignored. Oh well, like a famous medic once said: “Rational arguments don’t usually work on religious people. Otherwise there would be no religious people.”

You said the Amarr Navy, implying the whole of the Amarr Navy. Definite articles can be pesky, can't they?



Here's what I believe may have happened.

Following their phyrric victoy at Vak'Atioth, the Jovians decided that the Amarr were too great a threat to them. However, they did not have the manpower to do anything directly.

Therefore, they armed and incited the self-styled Minmatar Elders to attack the Empire. They did this through their agent, Shakor.

So you now presume to speak for others? Then if she meant that, why didn't she say that. The fact that the word's "Outside Amarr" or "Aside from within the Empire" didn't appear in in her statement, one can only logically assume she meant to include The Empire. To argue otherwise, would be assuming a false pretense, and therefore logically flawed. In fact, since I cannot see any evidence of those words ever being in her original statement, or them interacting with the words around them, one can only assume that they never in fact, existed. And you only deal with facts, right, 'Scientist'?

The 'fact' of the matter is, you will never understand God. That is a true shame. just as the particles that you study, will never understand how all of the particles in your body make up one concious being. All they see is a bunch of other particles moving in an unusual way. They can understand how they react to one another, even SEE it. But they will never come close to understanding that all of those particles, bosons, quarks, all of that amazing world around them, is part of something bigger.

Also, more importantly, while you claim is is unimportant if God exists, I say that it is even less important if you believe in Him. Particularly when it comes to a thread to welcome back a wonderful Amarrian to our midst.

I hope your 'logic' takes you to a wonderful place, because your lack of faith will one day condemn you to a horrible existence.

Pyrric victory? That's not what it says in the history books ("[...]only a third of the Jovians ships had been lost."). If the Amarians are superior to everyone else, this could not have happened. By claiming that the Matari could only have invaded Amarr space by Jovian interference you admit that the Jove are superior to the Amarr. And if they have chosen the Matari, then they are superior to the Amarrians as well.

The rest of your empty, baseless theological rambling aside, you're wrong - because God is a concept invented by man. Indeed, God is a concept so inconsistent and idiosyncratic it couldn't have come from anywhere else because, as an ancient poet once said of your very own God:

"... frankly and hysterically insane - like all dreams: a God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice and invented hell - mouths mercy and invented hell - mouths Golden Rules, and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him!"

I'd say God is a nice concept, but even that would be a lie.

then you have to accept the consequences!
you chose not to be enlightened an therefore become a superior being.

your suffering and deaths do not matter therefore we do not treat you any better than bacteria. if you are useful as slaves you will be enslaved, if your body will be useful as stepstone on the way to a chapel for some elderly enlightened it will be so.

You are running in circles like a dog carrying a bone too large for his jaws.

My faith makes me stronger than you, not in a physical but in spiritual way. You do not want to accept that, so be it bu you have proven nothing but your ignorance and arrogance so far.

What you chose to call a lie and try to back with your pseudointellectual and pseudoscientific argumentation is irrellevant to the people like me. I do in no way try to convert you, that has to come from inside you.
Attacking our faith again and again and again will not change anything at all in my views.

I am superior because i do not act only in my own best interest but i walk paths that you cannot see for you have no faith.
You are inferior because you limit yourself to "if i cannot see it, it does not exist" it is not a matter of the body or the genes. It is a problem of the mind! Yours is closed and only busy with mocking those you do not understand.
Therefore you are inferior, your life does not matter to me, it is not one filled with His spark!

Now I do take the justification of treating you as a godless being from those facts, facts for me at least for you are blind to them.

You may argue all you want now, I will not waste any more time on you.
What I was illing to say I have done, there surely are more patient preachers out there.

Maybe we meet in space one day and maybe we will fight. Who will wake up in a clone bay is not an indication of spiritual superiority but a result of many factors only one of them being my faith.
If five of us meet the one of you we will destroy you but I will not claim it was God that made me vitorious! Meybe it was Him who let me run my gang into your single ship but what killed you were numbers.
If five of you will meet the one of me, will you be man enough to take the result you got and accept it? I don't think so, you are inferior, you will use that as another piece in your faulty argumentation and try to show me there is no God for he has not helped me.
THIS is where we are superior, there is a God and He is on our side but He is not working for us. We are working for Him.
We have strength through our faith to try a million times and not stick up if we see a chance a way will be found to accomplish the Divine!

Your lifes do not matter to us ass you are not walking our paths. Call me inhumane, unethical and without morale. So be it for I judge on another level!

Superior to what, exactly? Slavery, invasion and war don't strike me as the actions of a 'superior' being. And I didn't say I won't seek enlightenment -- I just won't do it on your terms, because becoming 'enlightened' is meaningless if we have to sacrifice our soul in the process.

And I'll be right there with you if that ever happens. Don't be surprised if it doesn't, though - Ethidium strikes me as a man who talks more than he acts.

Such insight hasn't stopped the Amarr in the past, sadly.