EVE General Discussion

Now that is hilarious. Especially since you used a word that breaks the forum rules, and is thus censored.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

In hungry hungry hippos, the only objective is to eat marbles. You're following the only path the game presents, eat marbles.

People who choose to play with you, are people who join the game understanding that the goal of all players involved is to eat the marbles.

Hungry Hungry hippos is a poor example, and here's why.

Eve is a sandbox. What you want to do, falls upon choice. You don't have to choose to kill an innocent miner. You don't have to choose to try and scam someone for 1 billion isk. There are ways to play this game where you will never inflict any amount of dps against another player. There are ways to play this game where you can PvP without killing people who's goal is to not pvp.

It comes down to the choices you make, and if you're willing to attempt to try and inflict losses on other people who are not looking to competitively wager their resources against yours, then you are also capable of trying to inflict losses on people offline as well.

You're imposing your choices on people who have different goals/objectives and ultimately different choices than your own.

Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

It is actually simple, really, but to understand this, you have to understand that the Universe, all of Existance, is really in balance (ever so slightly tipped towards Entrophy but let´s ignore that for now).
Now, Balance means there are equal parts of good and evil, hostility and friendship, joy and hate, genius and stupidity and so on. That also means that to be happy, someone else must be sad or made sad, to experience joy you must hate someone or make someone hateful, to feel good someone else must feel bad, creation begets destruction begets creation, to live forever you have to die.

The conclusion is that Eve players are really a nice bunch but Karma, Kismet, the Universe itself, whatever you call it, will enforce the Balance and thus negativity and hostility... or rather, the negativity and hostility you experience prove that Eve players are really quite a nice bunch.

The game also enables us to interfere with other player's activities, and reap rewards from doing so. Players need to adapt strategies to defend themselves whether or not they want to participate in "fair" pve. Believe it or not even though I am a ganker, I take part in pve activities. I have a deadspace fit t3 that I move through highsec. I have lost expensive ships to gankers. I took losing an expensive ship as a learning experience, and now make sure I use a mwd and cloak when traveling in any ship that I care about. When I gank people, I expect them to take similar steps to protect themselves. If they do not, I profit. It is as simple as that.

Is it morally wrong to sell minerals on the market because it competes with other players attempts to do so?

You would do a better job of convincing me that eve players are morally bankrupt by claiming that having our computers on kills people by contributing to global warming. There is a huge difference between being a bad person by actually treating someone poorly and blowing up their stuff in a game.

They are, bit by bit, pulling you down to their low level.

Dont fall for it.

I think Riot Girl said it best when she said, "Oh God."

everyone needs to calm down and have some cake

The cake is a lie.

What are you talking about, these forums have a lot of nice people.

Sure, there are some negative and hostile ones, but many of them are just stupid.

Contrary to other games. Eve has its forums as part of the game. A lot of politics and warfare happens in the forums. Eve is a harsh game.. be in space be in its forums.