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Why are many people on these forums so negative, and so hostile?

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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#541 - 2014-02-27 21:52:22 UTC
Eternum Praetorian/Mandarine wrote:
I'm sorry, I did miss it in your cluster of wall-of-text pyramid postings. I'll have to check better for the name "Eternum" next time.


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With a population as massive as EVE's, it would be downright strange if there weren't.


Now that we have established that you do think that such individuals play eve, would we expect their interactions in game to reflect such nature or should we expect their behavior to be more or less benign?


We should expect that they play Eve.
That their nature is that they play Eve.

As to whether their behavior is more or less benign? Depends, is the behavior of people who play Eve more or less benign?

The only thing any of us can know about any of the people that play Eve (aside from people we actually know outside of Eve) is that they play Eve.

Any other judgement outside of that is unsubstantiated speculation.

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#542 - 2014-02-27 21:55:25 UTC
Tippa, care to confirm on your main what your potential alt just stated?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#543 - 2014-02-27 21:56:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Now that we have established that you do think that such individuals play eve, would we expect their interactions in game to reflect such nature or should we expect their behavior to be more or less benign?

I would expect it to be lost in the general noise of game activity to the point where it would be pretty much undetectable. But then, that's not a big shocker since they have a nasty tendency to be hard to detect IRL as well.

I also expect it not to split along the lines of “benign”/“malign” — it implies motivations and a moral absolutism that have little to do with the pathologies themselves.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#544 - 2014-02-27 21:57:06 UTC
So, I ganked a miner the other day. Last night in fact, while I was bored gatecamping a wormhole. Wormbro, btw, are some pretty pro guys as far as being ganked by me. Big props.

The miner, however... told me that he hoped I choke to death on a black man's genitalia, to put it mildly. The situation was described in great detail.

And I'm supposed to be the mentally disturbed one. Roll

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#545 - 2014-02-27 21:57:22 UTC
The last time I had a Mackinaw popped (geez, it's been 2 1/2 years) I didn't really care. I had more than enough ISK to replace it.

What I didn't like was the accompanying Mail I received, which I cannot repost here, as every one of it's 10 sentences about what a stupid f'ing lame a** I was is Forum bannable. And I wasn't even AFK. It was just a losing situation.

Admirable techniques were used most indeed, but that mail was unnecessary.

CCP thought so too apparently.

We "didn't see" it's composer around for quite awhile starting the next day.

The ganking was fine. The 8 year old toilet mentality of the Mail was not though. At all. I mean, especially with my "lifestyle" and not really shocked and offended by anything, but I was nervous even submitting the mail as complaint, as I was sure CCP would think I faked it it was so unbelievable.

There just is not any call for that crap.

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#546 - 2014-02-27 22:00:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Tippia wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Now that we have established that you do think that such individuals play eve, would we expect their interactions in game to reflect such nature or should we expect their behavior to be more or less benign?

I would expect it to be lost in the general noise of game activity to the point where it would be pretty much undetectable. But then, that's not a big shocker since they have a nasty tendency to be hard to detect IRL as well.

I also expect it not to split along the lines of “benign”/“malign” — it implies motivations and a moral absolutism that have little to do with the pathologies themselves.



Does this mean that you feel that said individuals would not have a tendency to be drawn to certain game activities over others?

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#547 - 2014-02-27 22:01:13 UTC
See, that's why my "you lost" mails are the epitome of decorum.

I have started calling them "surprise hull integrity inspections".

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#548 - 2014-02-27 22:03:36 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:



Does this mean that you feel that said individuals would not have a tendency to be drawn to certain game activities over others?
You mean in a way that could see murderers drawn to playing chess?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Marsha Mallow
#549 - 2014-02-27 22:03:50 UTC
Last lowsec kill I had was an Orca (which jumped in unscouted). The guy mailed us all threatening "You're f#cked now! You don't know who you are dealing with!" etc etc. So I podded him. Few months later I noticed someone in NPC chat mentioned the same guy hysterically mailing people who killed him. Bless.

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Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#550 - 2014-02-27 22:05:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Mag's wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:



Does this mean that you feel that said individuals would not have a tendency to be drawn to certain game activities over others?
You mean in a way that could see murderers drawn to playing chess?



No. I don't mean that. Why would I? Straight

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#551 - 2014-02-27 22:05:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Does this mean that you feel that said individuals would not have a tenancy to be drawn to certain game activities over others?
Nah.

Maybe if we're talking about some very broad categorisations such as having a slightly higher tendency towards solo play or towards corp play, depending on which specific disorder we're talking about, but that's about it.

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No. I don't mean that.
Why not? Bobby Fischer was certifiable, after all… Blink
Mag's
Azn Empire
#552 - 2014-02-27 22:09:16 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Does this mean that you feel that said individuals would not have a tendency to be drawn to certain game activities over others?
You mean in a way that could see murderers drawn to playing chess?



No. I don't mean that. Why would I? Straight
I wanted to understand the angle you were trying to apply. The motivation behind the questions. You seem to be leading with them.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#553 - 2014-02-27 22:09:48 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Does this mean that you feel that said individuals would not have a tenancy to be drawn to certain game activities over others?
Nah.

Maybe if we're talking about some very broad categorisations such as having a slightly higher tendency towards solo play or towards corp play, depending on which specific disorder we're talking about, but that's about it.


And how about a sadist? Might they be drawn to certain activities over others?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#554 - 2014-02-27 22:11:23 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
And how about a sadist? Might they be drawn to certain activities over others?

A sadist would probably seek out something less ephemeral and more reliable than EVE. So in that sense, yes. P
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#555 - 2014-02-27 22:13:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Tippia wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
And how about a sadist? Might they be drawn to certain activities over others?

A sadist would probably seek out something less ephemeral and more reliable than EVE. So in that sense, yes. P


We are talking about playing eve. Is it yes for a sadist playing EVE? I mean, I have known at least a couple of self proclaimed sadists on vent in eve so I know that they are there.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#556 - 2014-02-27 22:20:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
We are talking about playing eve. Is it yes for a Sadist playing EVE?

Then we're back to meaninglessly broad categorisations.

Actually, going by the survey posted earlier, they probably would trend towards one activity: forum trolling. Whether you want to consider that a part of playing EVE or not is up to you.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#557 - 2014-02-27 22:22:00 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


The ganking was fine. The 8 year old toilet mentality of the Mail was not though. At all. I mean, especially with my "lifestyle" and not really shocked and offended by anything, but I was nervous even submitting the mail as complaint, as I was sure CCP would think I faked it it was so unbelievable.

There just is not any call for that crap.


It sounds like it was handled appropriately, but I also gotta the guy probably got banned for profanity rather than attempting to taunt you. Is the problem here that he was crude and profane or is the problem that he was being mean-spirited?

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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#558 - 2014-02-27 22:23:47 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
We are talking about playing eve. Is it yes for a Sadist playing EVE?

Then we're back to meaninglessly broad categorisations.


And unsubstantiated speculation.

Eve is not about the choices someone else makes.
Eve is about the choice you make.

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#559 - 2014-02-27 22:24:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Tippia wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
We are talking about playing eve. Is it yes for a Sadist playing EVE?

Then we're back to meaninglessly broad categorisations.



No we are not, it is a simple question. Do you feel that a sadist playing eve would be drawn to certain types of activities in EVE over others? Or do you feel that their tendencies/desires/whatever would not sway their career choices in this digital environment?

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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#560 - 2014-02-27 22:27:33 UTC
Eternum Praetorian/Mandarine wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
We are talking about playing eve. Is it yes for a Sadist playing EVE?

Then we're back to meaninglessly broad categorisations.



No we are not, it is a simple question. Do you feel that a sadist playing eve would be drawn to certain types of activities in EVE over others? Or do you feel that their tenancies/desires/whatever would not compel them in this digital environment?



You asking someone to make an unsubstantiated speculation about what a sadist who played Eve would do with their time?

Some of us don't fill threads with unsubstantiated speculation.

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