EVE General Discussion

There is not forewarning without having to do stuff that you need not do on any other gate in the game. Thats the point. Jita is a special snowflake in EVE, and its time CCP acknowledge that they have an issue.

Jump into New Caldari, if Jita is slow it should tell you the moment you enter New Caldari. Same should apply to any stargate that is experiencing gate delays.

Not only does this help pilots. This also helps reduce server load. Which is the whole point of the cap in the first place.

Dear CCP, please save me from ~effort~, otherwise I might have to train common sense to 1.

so just open the gate remove the cap and wait for you to complain about the lag within jita, its not a fault with the server its a fault of the players trying to max out the servers resources, the servers cant have unllimited resources its just not possible so find another one of the thousands of stations to go to

Yeah, I had a ton of stuff typed up, but as I was considering what exactly you meant by "forewarning", of which I managed to compile a list of 5 methods to ascertain whether the gate is locked without actually bumping into everyone elses fat ass there, before I hit upon the most obvious and simple one that really just makes even a system wide gate lock warning obsolete and uneccessary.

Warp to 100km of the gate and look at the gate. That simple.

Other options, for completions sake:
-Ask a friend at Gate.
-Fly an alt in first.
-Observe rant/rave in Local.
-Use Probes to check the Gate.
-DScan the Gate.
-Check Map for number of pilots active in system.

But yeah, most importantly, most simply and quite safely too. Warp to 100km and just look at it.

However, I do agree with Mario to an extent that the Gate Lock phenomena is unusual enough to possibly warrant a system announcement. More important than the possible loss of potential targets massed at the gates to gankers, is that some players might actually take that announcement to heart and actually finally start trading elsewhere or set their preferred and chosen trade times at some other time of the week instead, both of which would be indirectly conducive to diversifying trade out of Jita, as well as population issues.

Weeeeell… checking the map and scanning gates is actually something that's very good practice to do for all gates, as is checking the state of local. If you want to avoid surprises, the mechanics are the same every time.

Again, I'm not saying it's a bad solution — I'm saying the premise is wrong and you really should stop claiming that the information isn't there because it's simply not true.

How does it reduce server load?

Well you are outright lying, numerous slowcat fleets have been defeated with subcaps, hell the CFC has done it more than any other entity so you shouldn't down on your FC's knowledge of game metrics. It als doesn't take 1600 Megas to defeat a slow fleet, we have gone over this before when Grath got you to stfu about it a month ago. Also I haven't seen anything stating slows are getting nerfed. Unless you mean the drone assist change which is hardly a nerf.

The comparison to Ganking is functionally ********.

If I am going to get ganked im going to get ganked no matter what. I can only tank so much, and I have never gone to gank a ship thinking, Ill bring enough dudes to kill an untanked ship, but not enough to kill him if he is tanked!. I don't think you have ever ganked before have you...probably not.

As for not taking billions why bother going to or from Jita? The only reason to go to Jita is to unload a large quantitiy of something or pick up a large quantity of something. If you are going to play small market **** you are better off doing it in a smaller market area, like Amarr, or Dodixie because the turnover margin is greater.

Its always fun to see folks comment on things they have no knowledge about themselves. The only reason to take a freighter to Jita is for transactions of billions worth of product.

This was like a threefor of Im stupid. GJ Baltec.

So the 30 sec cloak you get after every gate jump or invunerability on undock shoul be removed also?

Just because someone gets ganked doesnt mean it was their fault. You dont control that the ganker does. You guys love to say its your fault for not xyz yet doing xyz still wont prevent it should they want to gank you.

No one is saying remove ganking, but gankers shouldnt get to take advantage just because the system is full capacity.

Ah, so no matter where you are within these 24 time zones... just don't go there at night. or weekends.

Nope. People are exploiting this to gank people.
Ganking needs to exist in balance, and when server mechanics or limitations are exploited - it's an exploit.
I'm not blaming anyone for doing it, or upholding victim rights blehblehbleh.
Tbf I think people who go to Jita on a weekend are a bit dim. BUT.

Here's a basic example:
Manually piloted freighter warps to gate
click * click * awww shite, its saturday [just worked a solid week and can only play weekends] * align out * align * splat
Please justify this as acceptable
ps. character has chosen 'courier' as a profession

I would hope they would save us from your posting.