EVE General Discussion

Ah yes the old "why don't you" argument. Go take some medications. I won't bother to reiterate everything I wrote before.


There is one cure for all this: point-to-point dial in hyperwarp. That's what I will push for.

It would be the end of bubbles and camps.

It would also be a chance for all those elite uber PVP null-dwellers to put their money where their keyboards are. You want PVP? You say 0.0 takes some dedication and time? Fine. Let us warp to wherever (or whatever limitations of mechanics for a feature that does not exist) and get past your Great Wall of Carebear.

I have a ship that I have kept in one piece since 2009, going in and out of wormholes and into 0.0 for hitting exploration sites RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSES. The only way this is possible is to avoid your camps. Were it not for wormholes I would be running incursions and raking in the ISK (hey wait a minute...). I can prove that freedom of movement would boost 0.0 population and turn the camps into "combat patrols". Every time I see these l33t null PVPers complain, it's about a LACK of PVP and getting blobbed.

Point to point hyperwarp PLUS being able to take down POCOs and raid Moon mining arrays - this would be a smorgasbord of PVP and chance encounter. Are you uber leet gods of PVP in 0.0 NOT yet tired of sitting on those bubble camps all day? I have been boxed into systems with bubbles on all points getting cursed at in Russian by people who can sit there all day (so I find another day - duh - it's not like I don't have anything else to do) and I watch them and it feels like watching someone multibox five hulks mining in 9.0 space. How does anyone stand that boredom? The campers are not doing anything more exciting than mining.



edit: and how the hell am I getting all these page snipes?

Why are PvP'ers 'wolves' and Industrialists 'sheep"?

That attitude in general tward indy's certainly isn't helping.

Player built jump gates. Have to go their system and knock it out of commission or destroy it to stop them jumping into yours.
That could break up space.
Covert POS, then you could build guerilla bases.

More info in sig.

That they have very little patience for **** talking epeen waving alcoholic children who like to **** on other peoples sand castles for giggles.

Yeah, we get it. You want to avoid pvp and travel around 0.0 without being shot at. Nuff said.

You certainly make it sound like having little little patience is a virtue.

Photography really interests me. I spend a lot of time traveling among many games' countless settings, and taking beautiful screenshots. Recently, I tried to do this in one of the newer FPS games. The scenery was really amazing. But right when I lined up my shot and was about to hit the "print screen" button, another player killed me with a sniper rifle.

I calmly apologized for intruding on his territory, and explained my intentions. What followed was a slur-ridden tirade that would make a drunken sailor blush. In the end, I took his final piece of advice, "gtfo no0b," and left the server. Later that day, I tried to achieve my gameplay goals, and the same thing happened. Fourteen times. I finally left for good. I simply don't understand why I couldn't be left alone to my enjoyment. I obviously wasn't bothering anyone with my presence. Why did I have such a negative experience?

Single player mode.

I am not oblivious to the point you are trying to make, however, the entire Internet has made us victims of our own success. I remember when I was dialling into the local university and could have interesting conversations late into the early morning.

Take Waste of Web for example; before that, there was just games like Ultima, Everquest and Anarchy, these odd games you needed an Internet connection for an no one really understood. Then if they did try it, they were confused and bewildered by the complexity and the interactions.
Waste of Web was the first game that could run on almost any machine and any idiot could play.
Hence, their huge numbers. The Internet is like that, full of mindless zombies, going about repeating memes and going "lol" all the time or "u mad bro?" because they haven't got an original thought in the whole group of them.
We made games and the Internet too easy and uncomplicated to access.

I don't want to get into a philosophical argument here. In fact, I agree with pretty much everything you said. I'm only left to wonder: "is this a good thing?"

You mentioned single player mode. Are you saying that people who seek this kind of experience should play in single player mode? Should EVE have a single player mode to accommodate these people? Is this the final solution to this whole problem? I mean, there are games out there that already do this, like the X series.

Why should EVE, a game that was intended to focus around player interaction (often involuntary), be changed to suit the tastes of players who seek a single player experience?

Well...maybe you should.