EVE General Discussion

Would people go to 0.0 if the power blocs were broken, I don't know but the idiot who wrote this thinks so:
Idiots Idea

Sorry, but as I am a member of the international nitpickers association, I really feel a strong urge to correct you.

The servers are based in London UK. Not in iceland.

Apologies for the interruption. Please carry on the good debate.

PS: Some people enjoy measuring their progress by comparing it to the success of others. This in it self makes the activity rather meaningless in terms of fun, but the competition makes the activity fun.

this forum ate my post

I am well aware of what was inferred, thanks.

Since EVE went gold the debate has raged on, with ebb's and flows depending on what other current issues fixate the player bases attention temporarily, and will likely continue until the server goes silent.

I personally see no need to try and force people out of high sec space, although comparative earnings in a relatively risk free environment will periodically need to be adjusted. It is preferable by far to offer incentives and richer game play for those that choose to live in a more challenging environment.

That is as long as high sec dwellers recognize the fact that without the element of danger and competitiveness inherent in a not totally safe high sec environment their interest in playing EVE (whether they realize it or not) would wane rapidly. If high sec becomes too safe, subscriptions drop... and that's not good for anyone.

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and while I'm at it let me second your opinion. Your impression of zero is pretty accurate. Forget Zagam, he's an idiot.

This^^ is whats wrong with EVE.

Pvp'ers whinge for lack of targets, complain that CCP needs to force carebears to accept pvp....and then spend half the time telling folks to unsub because they'r etoo soft/too casual/a carebear/ need thier hand held

When are you going to realise that people un-subbing is actually BAD for the game and not a good thing?

Not bad becasue boohoo less targets, bad because boohoo CCP lays off more staff and reduces the amount of money fed back into the game dev.

I dont understand how they think these forums are adequate. Was the web dept part of the 20% and now they dont have ppl to fix it?

Sorry, you're playing the forums wrong.

Why Carebears hadn't said much in the past had a lot to do with being bum rushed by a well-organized and vociferous few who thought they ruled the game. When the talk of changing the game mechanics to bring more victims to these "honestly just looking for mutual enjoyment" types who were running out of victims (which is always the case), then the Carebears felt it might be necessary to make their presence felt to offset the tendency for the vocal few to get their ways - because intelligent people find it hard to believe a corporation would alter its product to satisfy a handful of yahoos with big mouths. This confidence in CCP has been shaken of late, so enlightened self-interest demands Carebears remind them they pay for accounts too.

I'm tempted to recount a bit of history to explain why null sec seems empty. BoB had it sewn up but for a few corners. BoB didn't really have the active membership to actually occupy the space they claimed. A loosely formed alliance finally figures this out and takes BoB out in a few days (what took so long?) All that space BoB once "held" becomes empty.

Now, instead of being bunched up in a few leftover corners, creating a certain amount of density, null sec players have virtually the entire map to spread out in and essentially have done that...demonstrating the density of players they once knew was a result of BoB squeezing them into a corner. You'll probably find that's the only real difference in player distribution.

It's hard to see why null/low sec players feel the need to drag hi sec players out to where they play. If their intentions are honorable (please don't spew your coffee at that) then they'd recruit into their corps and help new players make the adjustment. If their intentions are all self-centered and greedy...as if...then they'd complain about it in forums and beg the management to change the game so they get their wish - more victims faster.

That null sec has its advantages isn't in dispute. If you carefully read the OP you'd know the issue is: Things being the way they are, is it really that SMART a thing to do? Several posts on this thread have more than adequately laid-out precisely why it ISN'T a smart thing to do. There you have it. As Ms. Repose said, "Read it and weep."

Then you haven't travelled much.

The majority of 0.0 residents know how to avoid bubbles we also know that sometimes we are going to get caught no matter what we do. Placing bubbles is very much like fishing, sometimes you get the placement right or you catch someone being careless and get a good haul and some times the fish just swim on past and are gone. As anything in 0.0 all it takes is a bit of concentration and most problems can be avoided.