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Mynnna for CSM9

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Veskrashen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#101 - 2014-03-23 15:02:54 UTC
mynnna wrote:
For example, imagine if FW had effects that were more far reaching, such as a bonus to production efficiency in stations of winning factions, representing how increased morale affects your work? Some food for thought there. Bear

Oh, believe me, FW pilots would jump for joy all over the known universe if system upgrades were anything other than an LP sink that gets constantly drained by the bad guys. Having system upgrades count for SOMETHING would be a huge incentive.

You could add in things like towers owned by corps in militia getting a fuel bonus (akin to that for nullsec sov), or possibly an increased refine rate at those stations for militia members (say, +1% per system upgrade level, maxing at 55%? That'd make it worth upgrading right there). Not only production rate increases, but perhaps a small ME type modifier of 0.2% or 0.3% per upgrade level?

Any and/or all of these would immediately shift the production landscape in lowsec, at least as far as FW goes. Non-FW lowsec would still need something to be an additional draw for industrial types.

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."

Jaun Pacht-Feng
Doomheim
#102 - 2014-03-23 22:01:54 UTC
What non current CSM members would you want elected?

Why would you want them elected?

"Go Goon or Go Home"

Perfect description of the biggest problem with Eve. 

mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#103 - 2014-03-24 03:06:07 UTC
Veskrashen wrote:
mynnna wrote:
For example, imagine if FW had effects that were more far reaching, such as a bonus to production efficiency in stations of winning factions, representing how increased morale affects your work? Some food for thought there. Bear

Oh, believe me, FW pilots would jump for joy all over the known universe if system upgrades were anything other than an LP sink that gets constantly drained by the bad guys. Having system upgrades count for SOMETHING would be a huge incentive.

You could add in things like towers owned by corps in militia getting a fuel bonus (akin to that for nullsec sov), or possibly an increased refine rate at those stations for militia members (say, +1% per system upgrade level, maxing at 55%? That'd make it worth upgrading right there). Not only production rate increases, but perhaps a small ME type modifier of 0.2% or 0.3% per upgrade level?

Any and/or all of these would immediately shift the production landscape in lowsec, at least as far as FW goes. Non-FW lowsec would still need something to be an additional draw for industrial types.


That'd be the style of thing that could happen yes, although ideally we go for something that offers its own unique but compelling benefit. The idea there would be to make the choice of where to do the thing (building, in this case) more a matter of tradeoffs and less a matter of straight "This is better in every way".

Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:
What non current CSM members would you want elected?

Why would you want them elected?


Well, part of me wants to tell you to buzz off because it's you, but it's a reasonable question. As with some other answers you've seen I, too, would need to catch up on interviews to really be sure, but at least so far those I can say I'm certain about are:

Sion Kumitomo. While I can make jokes about being contractually obligated to talk up my own Chief of Staff/Head Diplo this way, he does bring a perspective to the metagame side, the people side of "how" and "why" in EVE, that is pretty valuable and that I think has been lacking from the CSM at least since Mittani was on the council.

Steve Ronuken: In addition to being highly knowledgable when it comes to industry, he's a guru in the third party development world, which is expertise that has been lacking from the CSM since...possibly ever?

Sugar Kyle: Sugar brings with her the lowsec angle which (to sound like a broken record) is another viewpoint we've lacked this past year. She also has the added bonus of sounding a hell of a lot like Ali Aras and so if both are elected I'll find the resulting confusion during voice chats to be highly entertaining Blink

Again, it's hardly exhaustive, those three happen to be the ones I think I'm most familiar with, Sion for obvious reasons and Steve & Sugar in no small part due to their recent appearance on DoW with me.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#104 - 2014-03-24 14:34:43 UTC
I went in Cap Stable yesterday for an interview, and I think it went pretty well... even the parts where I temporarily forgot the definition of simple words, stuck my foot in my mouth and generally made myself look (and feel!) silly on a couple related questions Oops Look for that to be posted within a couple of days.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

Lanctharus Onzo
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#105 - 2014-03-25 05:07:27 UTC
CSM9 Candidate Interview: mynnna
http://www.capstable.net/2014/03/25/csm9mynnna

Executive Editor, CSM Watch || Writer, Co-host of the Cap Stable Podcast || Twitter: @Lanctharus

Jayne Fillon
#106 - 2014-03-25 11:54:54 UTC
Lanctharus Onzo wrote:
CSM9 Candidate Interview: mynnna
http://www.capstable.net/2014/03/25/csm9mynnna
I just listened to this interview - although I've enjoyed the majority of podcasts that capstable has done with the candidates, I was greatly disappointed to see the focus of this interview so heavily based on Mynnna's involvement with GSF and TMC, and not regarding Mynnna or the CSM itself.

Sure, Mynnna is a block candidate, but he's far from an empty shell of a candidate and deserves the same level of respect and types of questions that any of the other candidates has received. What?

Can't shoot blues if you don't have any. Long Live NPSI.

Jaun Pacht-Feng
Doomheim
#107 - 2014-03-25 13:00:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaun Pacht-Feng
I really liked the part of the interview and I'll quote the interview and a publicly published GSF update.
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Mynnna has proven himself as the voice of reason amidst a council of arch fools and autistic bloggers.


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That is the sort of attitude the GSF has towards the CSM


His reply?

This was an internal document meant to be posted on an internal forums. Whilst ignoring the fact that it was posted on a public forum and intended for a public audience.

mynnna wrote:
Some of us had a good chuckle at it.............there is your answer.


Then he refused to apologize and agree with the statement! Then pretended that it was for internal propaganda yet it was published on a public manner.

Would you Mynnna like to publicly address this and maybe apologize for it?

Or do you agree with Mittens statement that the only one who matters on the CSM is you Mynnna. Which JUST so happens to be the Financial Advisor/Controllers for the most controversial group of players in the game. That, as you have also stated in your interview put your own agendas and gameplay ahead of the rest of the game when it comes to your CSM obligations.

"Go Goon or Go Home"

Perfect description of the biggest problem with Eve. 

Jaun Pacht-Feng
Doomheim
#108 - 2014-03-25 13:02:46 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Or is this the part that you once again will say "I already have the votes I needed before anything has been made public from CCP. *Snip* Please refrain from using profanity. ISD Ezwal.

"Go Goon or Go Home"

Perfect description of the biggest problem with Eve. 

mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#109 - 2014-03-25 13:24:48 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
Given how badly I stumbled around while answering the question it'd be easy even for someone starting from a neutral perspective to be unsure about what I was trying to say. Of course you have already made it abundantly clear that you're starting from anywhere but neutral, so you probably fancy it as a wonderful chance to twist the facts and grind your axe a bit. So let me more clearly restate what I said:


  • The extent to which I agree with any of that is that there are some bloggers on the CSM.
  • If you're seeking an apology for someone's actions, I suggest you start by asking them for it.
  • Only a couple of other members of the CSM commented on the line at all and if they took offense, they didn't tell me about it.


The angle I failed to consider, which Hoots pointed out after the fact, was someone who has autism (really) themselves, or has a family member with it. I can understand and certainly wouldn't fault them for being offended at the way "autist" is casually thrown around in the eve community at large, and thinking to my cousin (who is autistic, albeit high functioning in no small part thanks to his mother's herculean efforts to raise him well and get grants & funding for educating his school on it) it makes me embarrassed to think about when I've used the term myself in the past. But as I said - if you want an apology, ask Mittani.

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Or do you agree with Mittens statement that the only one who matters on the CSM is you Mynnna.

Nope. Did I fail to make that clear?

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That, as you have also stated in your interview put your own agendas and gameplay ahead of the rest of the game when it comes to your CSM obligations.

And now you're trying to twist things as much as possible. The question you're referring to was something along the lines of "Do you think there's a metagame advantage to having someone on the CSM" to which my answer was more or less "There's definitely value in having your playstyle represented on the CSM as it's a direct conduit to CCP and being able to look at at influence changes ahead of time to avoid unintended effects upon or better benefit that playstyle is valuable, but thinking that goes so far as to translate to being able to bring about change for your specific group or control CCP is laughable."

Look me in the eye and tell me with a straight face that you don't think that Mike Azariah hasn't explicitly looked at something for the benefit of highsec. That Ali Aras hasn't explicitly looked at something for the benefit of NRDS as a philosophy, that Ripard Teg hasn't explicitly looked at how to bring about benefit for small gang PvP, or that either Chitsa or James haven't looked at explicit benefit to wormholes, and I'll laugh in your naive face.

I'm not going to expect you, or the delightful paranoid above you, to take any of that as sincere. But then again, I wouldn't expect you to even if I'd more clearly disagreed with it and begged for forgiveness, either.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#110 - 2014-03-25 13:44:03 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Given how badly I stumbled around while answering the question it'd be easy even for someone starting from a neutral perspective to be unsure about what I was trying to say. Of course you have already made it abundantly clear that you're starting from anywhere but neutral, so you probably fancy it as a wonderful chance to twist the facts and grind your axe a bit. So let me more clearly restate what I said:


  • The extent to which I agree with any of that is that there are some bloggers on the CSM.
  • If you're seeking an apology for someone's actions, I suggest you start by asking them for it.
  • Only a couple of other members of the CSM commented on the line at all and if they took offense, they didn't tell me about it.


The angle I failed to consider, which Hoots pointed out after the fact, was someone who has autism (really) themselves, or has a family member with it. I can understand and certainly wouldn't fault them for being offended at the way "autist" is casually thrown around in the eve community at large, and thinking to my cousin (who is autistic, albeit high functioning in no small part thanks to his mother's herculean efforts to raise him well and get grants & funding for educating his school on it) it makes me embarrassed to think about when I've used the term myself in the past. But as I said - if you want an apology, ask Mittani.

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Or do you agree with Mittens statement that the only one who matters on the CSM is you Mynnna.

Nope. Did I fail to make that clear?

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That, as you have also stated in your interview put your own agendas and gameplay ahead of the rest of the game when it comes to your CSM obligations.

And now you're trying to twist things as much as possible. The question you're referring to was something along the lines of "Do you think there's a metagame advantage to having someone on the CSM" to which my answer was more or less "There's definitely value in having your playstyle represented on the CSM as it's a direct conduit to CCP and being able to look at at influence changes ahead of time to avoid unintended effects upon or better benefit that playstyle is valuable, but thinking that goes so far as to translate to being able to bring about change for your specific group or control CCP is laughable."

Look me in the eye and tell me with a straight face that you don't think that Mike Azariah hasn't explicitly looked at something for the benefit of highsec. That Ali Aras hasn't explicitly looked at something for the benefit of NRDS as a philosophy, that Ripard Teg hasn't explicitly looked at how to bring about benefit for small gang PvP, or that either Chitsa or James haven't looked at explicit benefit to wormholes, and I'll laugh in your naive face.

I'm not going to expect you, or the delightful paranoid above you, to take any of that as sincere. But then again, I wouldn't expect you to even if I'd more clearly disagreed with it and begged for forgiveness, either.


Ultimate power leads to supreme arrogance.
You know you will get elected again, if it can even be called an election.
You know that outside of punching Hilmar in the face, you are untouchable within the game and the CSM.
You know that you and the other cartel leaders have won, and ultimately, you will get an Eve universe molded precisely like you want it.

Bravo. Well-played.
Still does not change your moral standards.
Jaun Pacht-Feng
Doomheim
#111 - 2014-03-25 13:48:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaun Pacht-Feng
mynnna wrote:
Look me in the eye and tell me with a straight face that you don't think that Mike Azariah hasn't explicitly looked at something for the benefit of highsec. That Ali Aras hasn't explicitly looked at something for the benefit of NRDS as a philosophy, that Ripard Teg hasn't explicitly looked at how to bring about benefit for small gang PvP, or that either Chitsa or James haven't looked at explicit benefit to wormholes, and I'll laugh in your naive face.


This is why the CSM is a joke and always will be. You people are elected to be the voice of the player base as a whole. Everyone just winds up in it for themselves!

This is the CSM!

So continue to push your agendas with your ignorance towards others who are not you!

By all means shape the game to suit your own personal goals. And ignore what the players actually want!



I wonder what category will you file the new CSM members under?

Autistic or fools?

Can you answer me that one with a straight face?

"Go Goon or Go Home"

Perfect description of the biggest problem with Eve. 

mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#112 - 2014-03-25 14:31:36 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Look me in the eye and tell me with a straight face that you don't think that Mike Azariah hasn't explicitly looked at something for the benefit of highsec. That Ali Aras hasn't explicitly looked at something for the benefit of NRDS as a philosophy, that Ripard Teg hasn't explicitly looked at how to bring about benefit for small gang PvP, or that either Chitsa or James haven't looked at explicit benefit to wormholes, and I'll laugh in your naive face.


This is why the CSM is a joke and always will be. You people are elected to be the voice of the player base as a whole. Everyone just winds up in it for themselves!

This is the CSM!

So continue to push your agendas with your ignorance towards others who are not you!

By all means shape the game to suit your own personal goals. And ignore what the players actually want!

Again with the willful misunderstanding. I don't think anyone expects any single member of the csm to be knowledgeable enough about every aspect of the game to be "the voice of the playerbase as a whole", so they elect people knowledgable in things which matter to them and count on those people to watch out for their interests. That person or persons makes it their job to convince the rest of the CSM and CCP in turn of his arguments. The net effect, then, is representation of the entire game through an aggregate of more focused viewpoints.



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I wonder what category will you file the new CSM members under?

Autistic or fools?

Can you answer me that one with a straight face?

Well since I'm grinning at having predicted your response so correctly:
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I'm not going to expect you, or the delightful paranoid above you, to take any of that as sincere. But then again, I wouldn't expect you to even if I'd more clearly disagreed with it and begged for forgiveness, either.

My answer of "neither" is very necessarily not with a straight face.

E: I'm at work now so further replies will be necessarily delayed.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

Jaun Pacht-Feng
Doomheim
#113 - 2014-03-25 16:19:08 UTC
Good to know you are refusing to actually reply to my question.

I'll wait for you to get told what to say from Mittens.

"Go Goon or Go Home"

Perfect description of the biggest problem with Eve. 

mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#114 - 2014-03-25 16:57:37 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
When the question is, as you asked, "will you do A or B?", "neither" is an eminently valid response, particularly when the question is blatantly structured as a leading question in an effort to draw out a particular response to support an agenda. So, I've answered your question - you just didn't like it.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

Lucine Delacourt
The Covenant of Blood
#115 - 2014-03-26 07:00:53 UTC
If a certain play style is unrepresented on the CSM, for whatever reason, and a proposed change will dramatically effect them what do you do? I know you are a bloc candidate and you realistically don't have to do anything. I guess I am just curious. Low Sec was basically unrepresented(At least "officially") this term, if something came up that could have a potentially large effect on the low-sec player base do you let it go as "not your area of expertise" or search out as much information from those in the know as possible without breaking the NDA?
Konrad Kane
#116 - 2014-03-26 15:58:54 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


Ultimate power leads to supreme arrogance.


Whilst I enjoy popcorn munching this thread I will say Mynnna is pretty humble and chill.



Fredric Wolf
Black Sheep Down
Tactical Narcotics Team
#117 - 2014-03-26 16:54:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Fredric Wolf
mynnna wrote:
OH GOD RAN OUT OF WORDS...

Hendrick Tallardar wrote:
That said, Mynnna you explain what is wrong with the current resource balance/income incentives in Null and how they require a sprawling empire. How would you propose to amend the current resource distribution to allow for a dreaded "blue donut" argument from existing? In essence, what in your mind would work to appease those that cry out over the largeness of nullsec sov residents and resolve the problems you addressed in your article with the current mechanics?

I have no idea. I haven't gotten a whole lot further on that aspect of the problem. The personal income side of it is comparatively easy - it already exists (just not necessarily to the scale it needs to) in the form of the military and industry indices in a system, and the obvious approach is to simply build atop those mechanics to build higher & taller at the expense of sprawl. And to a degree that's a partial solution to the problem of organizational income, if you accept "renting" as an acceptable resource - if any given system can support a heck of a lot more people so long as it's active, then you can obviously charge a lot more for access to those systems, put more people into them, or both.

It's more problematic when it comes to considering moons though. As long as we're doing the handwavey thing we can pretend industry is now a viable activity in null, so perhaps that drives mining (which can be taxed) and more lively markets (ditto) in addition to mining and POCO fees, but something more is probably needed. Given the somewhat delicate balance moons are designed for going and saying "okay now there's this thing that jacks the output by 1000% but (handwavey limiter so they can't be everything goes here)". Even if the limiting mechanics work, suddenly you've got a bunch of different groups sucking way more goo out of the same number of moons and the balance goes out the window. If that can't be worked around then moons wind up turning into bonuses rather than a serious income source. So what replaces them? Something new, no idea what just now...haven't really gotten that far in the brainstorming.


Wouldn't a simpler solution to this be to move moon mining to the surface via PI? Just allow the items from a moon to be sent to the parent planet and allow variable tax rates to be set for moon PI vs planet PI. This would allow for a more bottom up income and also increase the conflict drivers of shooting POCOs. You could still keep reactions in POS or move these also to the surface.

Moving reactions to the surface and allowing them to be attacked via orbital bombardment would be a great feature to incorporate a almost useless feature in game currently.
Fredric Wolf
Black Sheep Down
Tactical Narcotics Team
#118 - 2014-03-26 17:27:37 UTC
Also would multiple stations per system in 0.0 solve some of the problems with industry?

I can see the bad side of this as it would be just more ehp to grind though if a system was attacked but why should 0.0 be unable to have multiple stations when any NPC controlled system can?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#119 - 2014-03-26 22:49:40 UTC
Fredric Wolf wrote:
Also would multiple stations per system in 0.0 solve some of the problems with industry?

I can see the bad side of this as it would be just more ehp to grind though if a system was attacked but why should 0.0 be unable to have multiple stations when any NPC controlled system can?


Honestly, by the time you've gone through the defensive SBUs, the TCU, the ihub, the TCU again, the ibub again, the station, the station again... adding another station to each station stage aint that big a deal. It's the timers that get you as much as anything.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#120 - 2014-03-27 01:14:31 UTC
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