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Direction on orbiting?

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Hasan al-Askari Mujahideen
Khyber
#1 - 2014-02-22 13:11:04 UTC
why does it keep changing for me about a week ago i turn pick a target turn my afterburner on and orbit it i go counter clock wise, yesterday i pick a target and orbit it thinking i would go counter clock wise like my self up run my afterburner on and i go clockwise. Today i pick a target thinking i would go clockwise and flat like the tatical overly on the screen, no i go downward to orbit.......

ANY WAY TO MAKE IT GO ONE WAY AND STAY?

yea its getting annoying having to change my tactics every day

James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#2 - 2014-02-22 14:32:07 UTC
The direction on orbit will work to maximize transversal (and thus angular at a given speed/range) and so the direction in which your approach happens determines the initial plane of the orbit. Then the plane is modified by how your target moves, your agility relative to your target and so on.
In theory, it should be easy enough to calculate which direction you will get from a given approach. In practice, you need to be doing trig in real time, thus requiring angle measures in real-time, sub-second calculation of these variables and so on, which means the orbits will tend to wobble, and perfectly identical stats, coming in on almost identical vectors will generally create a furball.

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Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#3 - 2014-02-22 14:48:06 UTC
Hasan al-Askari Mujahideen wrote:


ANY WAY TO MAKE IT GO ONE WAY AND STAY?

yea its getting annoying having to change my tactics every day



Pilot manually.

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Hasan al-Askari Mujahideen
Khyber
#4 - 2014-02-22 15:36:41 UTC
that would make scenes but I am orbiting a stationary object, and it should go the direction i am going and just line up better not the complete opposite way.

Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#5 - 2014-02-22 16:09:31 UTC
orbit will change every time you make some changes on it, example putting mwd on may change your orbit direction etc...
Katie Khardoula
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-02-23 12:18:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Katie Khardoula
No, there is no way to change it. In Eve, you don't have control of these actions. Just get used to it.

The closest you can get to controlling your orbit in the way you describe is by piloting manually... and by doing so, you'll probably do even more of an unsatisfactory job at controlling your transversal than you believe your "autopilot" is.

It doesn't facilitate the need for a "Change of tactics." You'll get used to it in time.

Solution: Don't be so OCD.

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God's Apples
Wilderness
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#7 - 2014-02-23 17:08:52 UTC
Yeah it's pretty terrible.

However, it can be used in the opposite way with a web as well. Since webs essentially negate an AB's speed bonus when you apply a web to an orbiting target many times they will spontaneously switch directions. This can be exploited by spamming your web forcing them to switch directions over and over rendering them relatively immobile making it easy to hit small ships with larger guns. Usually frig pilots are too dumb or simply die before they can realize that they have to manually orbit when someone starts to do it.

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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#8 - 2014-02-24 19:05:35 UTC
Morgan Torry wrote:
Hasan al-Askari Mujahideen wrote:


ANY WAY TO MAKE IT GO ONE WAY AND STAY?

yea its getting annoying having to change my tactics every day



Pilot manually.


This. If your target tries to burn away and you are auto-piloting your orbit, your client will try to fly straight at the enemy ship until it gets back to the correct range. This will likely result in you getting blapped.

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