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The strange silence of... Empire??

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Dave Stark
#41 - 2014-02-22 15:03:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Dave Stark
Shederov Blood wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Alejandro Rebenga wrote:
Kat.. er.. Dave.

clearly, i've missed something.
Only the obvious. Blink

that happens far more than i'm comfortable with.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2014-02-22 15:24:14 UTC
Ralen Zateki wrote:
Ilovetomine wrote:
Suggestions/observations on this, anyone?


I think you may be missing the point.... but if you really want to make friends with folks in the local channel go right ahead. I'm sure they have plenty of magazines and candy to keep you occupied.

In the meantime... I think I'll join a corp....



In some out of the way high sec systems with only 4-5 people in the whole constellation people get to know each other via local after a while. Most of high sec is full of scams , idiots and the shallow. Talking in local in those places has no feedback and no upside.
Joining a decent corp is IMO a subset of the options available. (although always a good idea).
Joining one or more communities is how you get to chat in eve. The community might be your corp or alliance. It might be industrial or Minerbumping. It might be belligerent undesirables. It might be role playing or some kinky sex fantasy based. Doesn't matter. Find one or more you like and join them. Much better success rate than random people in local

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85

admiral root
Red Galaxy
#43 - 2014-02-22 17:46:20 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
Even if you have the best of intentions and are being as friendly as you can possibly be, there might just be some ganker who decides to pick on you for that very reason. Just to troll you for being a nice guy.


Some of the nicest people I've met in this game are gankers.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-02-22 17:55:42 UTC
Silence in highsec is very common. Always keep trying to initiate conversations. You can use whatever means you deem necessary.

It's always good to know the locals. There will always be silence, but if you stick to a system, then you can break it.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#45 - 2014-02-22 18:54:43 UTC
BrundleMeth wrote:
Well...

In my home station, local chat is full of russians speaking russian. It appears they have no interest in talking to anyone else which to my mind is nothing more than pure racism. Which doesn't really surprise me...

And no I'm not moving, I have too much to move and I was there first...


They say the same thing about you. All you do is yammer in your Americanized pseudo-English instead of chatting with them in their native language.

It's not them that's racist. It's you.

Mr Epeen Cool
Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
#46 - 2014-02-22 19:30:13 UTC
When someone say o/ in local I usually answer to it. Sometimes there are even cool, but rare, convos (I had one Friday).
Out of that, including some scam and hiring messages, it's pretty silent and dead.

Most of the time I use local as an intel tool than a chat.

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-02-22 20:13:22 UTC
admiral root wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:
Even if you have the best of intentions and are being as friendly as you can possibly be, there might just be some ganker who decides to pick on you for that very reason. Just to troll you for being a nice guy.


Some of the nicest people I've met in this game are gankers.

i guess it is really bad to be such limited person Cry

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Em arr Roids
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2014-02-22 20:48:40 UTC
I actually agreed with the op and then decided fck it ima go hang in null. Went through Solitude, cloud ring pureblind and fade and wow... I'll never moan about hi sec being quiet again.

Whats funny is the Pro 20+ man fleets flying through. I mean why on earth would you do a fleet op in dead space ? These areas used to be a hive of activity and it's sad to navigate the area like this.

Maybe high sec is not as quiet as people think it is...
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2014-02-22 22:33:43 UTC
I've played this game long enough to realize that my survival rate depends on how low a profile I can keep. That means keep yer mouth shut, don't invite strangers to parties, don't go to strangers' parties, and you don't have friends; only people pretending to be your friends so they can scam you.

Been playing 8+ years incident-free Big smile (well, nearly incident-free... had to learn somehow).

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.

DSpite Culhach
#50 - 2014-02-23 06:54:39 UTC
I've landed in hisec anomalies with L5 level tanked ships and helped out people that were shooting, I've sat on belts picking off rats, I have even let people ninja-salvage in missions while I was doing them, and generally speaking, people are very cautious.

Sometimes landing on grid with a ship that kinda-sorta looks like it's not supposed be the type of ships that should be there, makes people warp off instantly, and I rarely get people to answer if I say hello in local.

To the OP: Now, if YOU landed on grid and said hello, I would take a look at the name, the pic, and then warp the hell off. Sorry, but you can look like whatever you want, and you want to be friendly, but you broadcast a whole "I want to eat your babies" vibe, so yea, not surprised. I fully realize that toon pics and names don't generally mean much, but after coming across names like "WarpOutASAP", it's better safe then sorry.

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#51 - 2014-02-23 07:45:07 UTC
I've had some very good chat in local. It's all about what you say. Even the Russians are fun.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#52 - 2014-02-23 08:44:16 UTC
I avoid local like the plague. If anyone is talking it's ******* kids waving their dicks in each others faces.

My chat is always set to Eve Radio. The people there are generally friendly and funny. They are all over the universe so I can get some intel on goings on elsewhere. They often do events like 1v1 PVP or mining ops. Ha! One of the 1v1s saw a Battle Badger vs. an Incursus. That one had to be called as neither could break the others' tank.

MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
I've played this game long enough to realize that my survival rate depends on how low a profile I can keep.


Truer words, spoken not.

"Grr Kimmi  Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide

www.eve-radio.com  Join Eve Radio channel in game!

James Nikolas Tesla
Tesla Holdings
#53 - 2014-02-23 10:51:57 UTC
I don't usually look at local, I am too busy monitoring my ore hold capacity.

CODE is just a bunch of pirates; smart, organized pirates. It doesn't help to rage at them because that is exactly what they want. Dust yourself off and get back on your feet, you don't even have to talk to them.

Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#54 - 2014-02-23 17:54:20 UTC
Em arr Roids wrote:
I actually agreed with the op and then decided fck it ima go hang in null. Went through Solitude, cloud ring pureblind and fade and wow... I'll never moan about hi sec being quiet again.

Whats funny is the Pro 20+ man fleets flying through. I mean why on earth would you do a fleet op in dead space ? These areas used to be a hive of activity and it's sad to navigate the area like this.

Maybe high sec is not as quiet as people think it is...



Shhh they want you to think their afk and not ratting, mining, or trying to convince people to stop making isk to hunt you

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2014-02-23 21:04:02 UTC
Ilovetomine wrote:
Good day to all of you. I just wanted to share a thought I had, or maybe a feeling... Or perhaps something I just have noticed....Isn't it quiet?? Or is it just me??

it's just you. Frankly, there are so many people in systems it's sort of bites to all speak in local at once.so there are many private channels instead - try having a conversation in Jita... Still, if you hit the right place at the right time where there are a lot of long time acquaintances busy convos can happned.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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NearNihil
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
#56 - 2014-02-23 21:26:30 UTC
Sometimes I chat with the people in local trying to strike up a conversation about anything. Sometimes I do not. Sometimes it's about showing off your blingiest pve boat (and I must admit I did link my all-A-type Daredevil L4 fit (which has been disassembled since) to wave a bit of my e-willy too), sometimes it's about beating a guy from the SoE Epic Arc. Sometimes it's about "that f***ing ganker", sometimes it's about mining. I'm not interested in all topics, and I don't always feel like chatting, so I keep my mouth shut when I don't feel like talking.

That said, I secretly have fantasies about making a new corp and exclusively recruit people by probing their ship down, taking out a shuttle, and private convoing them while I orbit their ship.
djentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#57 - 2014-02-23 21:28:51 UTC
Victoria Thorne wrote:
Ilovetomine wrote:
Suggestions/observations on this, anyone?


Launch a crusade. War-dec anyone who doesn't accept a chat request from you.

If that is too much work, join an active corp.


BEST. IDEA. EVER.
Rob Kashuken
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#58 - 2014-02-24 01:32:55 UTC
Newbie here, only been in the game for about a week now, just wanted to offer my perspective on this, coming from someone who is still running L1 missions and mining Vesp in a Venture.

I'm coming into Eve as a refugee from another MMO that's gone downhill pretty badly in the last couple of years, I was told about Eve by those that prefer a challenge, and just on the learning curve, Eve is that, which is very good.

Before coming in, I did my research on the game, read up on it for a couple of weeks before downloading the client. Heard a lot of stories of the epic long cons, the huge fights started over trivialities, read about market activities that could rival stock market day-traders activities. Read up on Intel stories, about what sorts of things tend to tip people off.

Yeah, they're the exceptional stories, but at the end of the days, 'news' isn't about the boring mining runs. That's what we hear, and what a lot of newer players have heard about, and are cautious as a result. We're busy learning, knowing that we're an easy mark for scams involving some game mechanic that we're struggling to comprehend (contracts are a great example of this) , so there's a heightened sense of caution.

Often, local chat in hi-sec areas is either useless for mass spam (eg: Jita), or 101 other newies that don't know what we're doing either, which is why Rookie Chat is there for.

Plus, talking in there either gets you bountied (also happens in NPC started Corp chat), which can be off-putting - the tuts don't seem to refer to those sorts of game mechanics, took me ages to realise that the minimum bounty on me generally means squat.

The only local chat that was actually helpful that I've found is the one around Arnon, where the SoE 'encourages' fleeting in order to to the Dagan mission.

Aside from that, the general impression that I've come away with from reading up on the game is that if you fly under the radar, you'll be fine, if you're noticed, you become a target. Which is why newbies are also somewhat discouraged from going to low/nullsec initially, because when they jaunt into the system on their newly acquired frigate, they die rapidly, often as an afterthought. Hell, I've seen people in Rookie Chat not wanting to do the SoE simply because they have to route through 0.5 space.

Felicity Love
Doomheim
#59 - 2014-02-24 02:02:00 UTC
Ilovetomine wrote:

I think it is so strange that the people of empire are just so silent. I see them come and go, I see them go places; belts, missions, anoms, you name it. And not a word is said. People will reject convos, block you over mails, or just greet you with some sort of frantic paranoia.

But not in empire... Isn't it quiet?? Or is it just me??



Didn't you get the memo ? Most "people" in Empire are just Null alts grinding ISK until the next 12-hour fleet fight grinds them into poverty again.

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

One Eyed Runner
GetYaTitsOut
#60 - 2014-02-24 10:06:48 UTC
Rhiannon Marius wrote:
Ralen Zateki wrote:
Pix Severus wrote:
Years of ganking, long cons, and wardecs over trivial matters have taken their toll. High sec dwellers have learned to shut their mouths, lest they become a target.

That, and most of them are AFK at any given time.


Sorry... could you repeat that? I was AFK....


That there are a lot of people are afk is a fact, however some of us use it as little more than an intel channel because it is full of e-peen waving and scams.



+1

I live in Jita so f*ck off