Wormholes

If only one thing could be added/changed, I would want a Personal SMA or at least restrict access of ships to certain people in the corp SMA.

Theres a case in making wspace more habitable and theres a case in keeping it different. These shouldnt be confused and while adding pSMAs would go long way towards making it more habitable, adding moongoo, ice and other crap would just make it lose its special flavour.

I think adding ice to wormhole space is a great idea as long as you make the sites rare. The more people that mine in WH space, the more potential targets there are.

Moon/ring mining would only work (IMO) if it was a new type of goo not available in empire space.

Can you explain how ice in wormhole makes things easy? Maybe if you are the one in your corp who is responsible for bringing in the ice but if not, it makes absolutely no difference.

I don't think this will happen but if it did, i think the pros would outweigh the cons.

It seems like a lot of people don't actually read what is being suggested...

I wouldn't doubt it. "Oh there is 9 pages, I'll just read part of the last one."

For example, I've seen other people mention a mobile trade post for WHs when if you look in the thread I was the first to think of it and mention it.

That too

I see people saying to have destroyable, anchored objects outside of POS. You realise that in WH space; as was stated; we're smaller numbers, which means there's never truely 100% coverage of the system.

If a group of 15-20 roll into a hole and there are things to pop; guess what they're going to do? They're going to pop what they can and move on. So what was the 'conflict driver'? If there's no one there capable of defending the 'conflict driver', then how much conflict other than a pinata to be beat on was really added?

I think the best thing about WH space is the stealth factor. You don't get notified of someone logging in or jumping into your system unless you're using overwatch(and I absolutely detest the new system scanner that updates you, even if it is abit delayed). If someone is running solo or doesn't have proper scouts; then as the game dictates they should be at a greater risk than those who do.

Risk vs Reward: Do I run these three combat sites solo for a payout all to myself; or do I wait for more corpmates to login so we can all have a go and be prepared for any hot-drops..."

Moon Goo - This is always an interesting idea; but I do tend to agree that the only real 'passive' income we should have in WH space is PI. It's decent money, and there's still a solid risk when doing it.(You gotta fly to the CO at some point to pick up/drop off). Moon Goo has it's place, but unless what we get in WH space is specific for T3 production, I don't see much use for it. I agree that 0.0 is more than welcome to maintain the control of moon goo.

Serendipity has it right. Smallish corp/alliance space, limited numbers via mass and viability for what can be done. Cohesive, mixed fleets of varying ship sizes and specialties, not blob warfare.

I always enjoy being surprised by what comes through a k162 or up the chain; almost as much as I love a well mixed fleet landing on someone else's fleet and having a nice level of chaos ensue. We all have fun and rarely does anyone take it personal(and if you're taking it personal that you got killed, you're playing the wrong game. Take it personal if someone talks trash, not just because you got popped/podded.)

Manufacturing outside POS:
Bad idea as it'll just push those who do this out of W-Space. As much as you may wish it, removing this stuff won't make all those miners and manufacturers suddenly go jump into a 20 man Tech3 fleet to PvP you. It's not what they're primarily interested in and as such they'll leave. Just like you'll leave if CCP added 1.0sec Concord to W-Space.
So end result, you still have nothing to shoot in W-Space.

This constant harassing of PvE guys and wanting to destroy their gameplay is going to turn W-Space into Non- FW LS, where there's nothing but dead space and gatecamps. What I've always liked about W-Space is that there's a bit of everything out here. The PvE guys are mixed in with the PvP ones. The miners are just next door and there's haulers running through the system now. Two WH's over is a PvP fleet getting ready to do something. It's all here. Nowhere else in Eve could you find everything about Eve so intermingled and so close together.

Yet slowly it's getting worn away and turning into everywhere else in EVE. We've lost the most of the miners due to Gravs now being anomalies rather than scannable sites. Those miners that did stay, most of those are back in POS before you even enter the system due to the Discovery Scanner. I haven't seen a PI runner this year. I'd like to know where they've all gone and I suspect that the warp changes are making it not worthwhile anymore.

Some of the best fun I've had out here is stalking through Grav Sites sneaking up on unsuspecting miners who didn't notice my scan probes. Chasing down PI runners, having to make split second decisions on which of the overlapping icons of Customs Offices he warped to. These are all things that CCP has changed to make the game better elsewhere that's negatively (in my opinion) changed W-Space.

#Back in my day
#Rant

Ice Mining:
This could be cool out here if it's something more W-Spacey than just another grav site. Means loosing fuel runners, but gaining ice miners.

Trading Stuff:
Kind of surprised no one has tried something out here yet with like secure cans or something. I think if there was a W-Space Chribba there probably would be, but as none of us really trust each other and without something game mechanic wise to help this out it won't happen.
Maybe a new Secure Can/Deployable type thing you can see the contents of but only remove via password or Isk to the owner? I don't think we need a full blooded station market thing to start this stuff up, just something to help make transactions between players a bit less reliant on trust. Space Contracts more or less.

WH Sound Effects:
Maybe not a full removal but just covops capable ships can go through with a lower sounding sfx and animation.

Oh well, I didn't realise having stuff outside of a massive POS or station would inconvenience the residents of the most dangerous area of space and they might lose their stuff to dangerous fleets of dangerous pvp people! What was I thinking!

We must have everything inside the POS or station to protect us all from nasty timezone warriors. I also think POCOs should have double their hit points and their reinforce timer should be at least 10 days to give adequate time for a defence fleet to form.

We should have clone jumps and wormhole generators and stations and conveniences like high sec space.

Where are all the people that want w-space to be difficult?

You guys sicken me. I want my money back.

:/