Wormholes

I called in some favors for black hole ideas. National Geographic is running an article on them this month so you can read what they really are (as best we know). The article was kind of rushed and is a bit short, but it's a good read none the less.

Just keep in mind that for any black hole ideas to be viable you have to include some sort of quiver/pucker graphic in the discussion. Just effects won't due. CCP is looking to put a little action into the graphic - any ideas to that end need to be part of you black hole improvements.

Disable the discovery scanner or whatever they call it. Running a signature audit should requiere some effort, eg. a set of probes in the open and someone pressing a button.

Also no I did not read through the entire thread incase it has been mentioned before.

Actually, I've encountered you three times, I keep some fairly extensive notes. If it wasn't directed at me, don't have it right after you quote me.

I believe after all these years, that the unknown has sadly become monotonous. Every sleeper site and escalation has been made readily available, even the amounts of ore in every grav site has become common knowledge, right down to how much is spawned.

Conflict drivers: Instead of every wormhole getting a second 'static', just increase the likelyhood of wandering wormhole spawns. C4's get NO wandering wormholes(k162's obviously don't count). You want conflict? Add more wanderings that randomly spawn and open up more chains.

Shooting Anchored Objects: If the fleet is larger or better setup than what we can field; I don't care who you are, no one is coming out to get smashed under your foot. Ships are easily replaced, but some people fly very expensive pods and we're not going to risk afew billion isk worth of pods over an anchored structure worth only a fraction.

Also on this note; even sieging someone doesn't always get a combat response. You can't imagine how many times we've sieged a wormhole, and they've either self-destructed entire fleets of ships behind pos shields; one by one(including capitals) rather than using them against us, or jumped in a scan ship and logged off, never to be seen again until we've left. Some people just don't pvp, or would rather not have the loss or kill going to someone else. Why LIVE in wormhole space if you're not up for PVP to any extent? Man the POS guns, jump in bombers and drop bombs on the enemy fleet; be a pain in their side until the bitter end; but don't just do nothing. Unless you're just there to farm the hole and run behind POS shields at the first sign of player contact, in which case thats most likely why you were sieged out.

Wormhole Random-osity: Sleeper spawns should be entirely randomized; it makes people pay attention and cuts down on 'the grind'. This goes for all sites that spawn sleepers; change up the tables so it's not the exact same spawn types.(It's fine to have eight cruisers spawn, but make the TYPE of sleeper cruisers entirely random. Maybe you get the neuters, maybe you get the warp scram/webbers.)

Change up the amount of ores that spawn in the ore sites; it should'nt be a guaranteed amount of every ore. Ore site Type A-Z, and each site type has a chance to spawn a certain configuration of that particular spawn.(Maybe you get a spawn that has huge spod rocks, maybe you get one thats full of plagio. Mix it up.

Sleepers at Structures: I think sleeper's randomly spawning around Custom's Offices is one of the best ideas in this thread. Think of them as the frigate scouts, 4-8 of them, hovering around the Custom's Office, gathering information on what it is, and then you warp in with a hauler and they turn aggressive; warp scram, neut and web. It'll definitely make doing PI alot more interesting.(I think randomly spawning sleepers in gas and ore sites would be interesting aswell. Pirates spawn randomly in ore fields in hisec, and Sleepers could easily investigate various anomalies like ore and gas sites at random throughout the sites lifetime.)

Sleeper Incursions: This is a big one, but I feel the only real threat to our POS are other players. I'd personally like to see a Sleeper Incursion fleet randomly spawn in the system. Make a new Sleeper for all I care, a dreadnaught or a carrier sized one; but have the 'Incursion Fleet" spawn in the system and it has to be CONSTANTLY scanned down, because it's constantly 'slow boating' to one of your Custom's Offices or POSs. Ways to stop it? Kill the carrier/dreadnaught and eliminate it's support fleet, or deal with it once it reaches the tower via automated defenses, or actual corpmates manning the guns.

This solves two issues; inactive corps that aren't really active in wormhole space(or those with terrible tower defenses that just scream "Burn me out, my tower can barely defend itself.), and giving those of us who DO live here more content to enjoy and 'deal with'. Think about it, we're basically the aliens here; we're the invasive species as far as the Sleepers are concerned. Why would they let us setup shop in these pockets of space that they've dominated for so long?

Who knows, maybe CCP could maybe do us Wormholers a new type of ship to make, some random items that MAY need reverse engineered, hmmmm?

New Tech 3 Ships: T3 cruisers are on the table to be rebalanced and tweaked. Thats fine. But after all these years, why haven't we seen atleast T3 frigates be introduced? I'm sure most corporation's industrial wing can make any T3 and subsystem in their sleep by now. Give these guys something new to train for and figure out. Give the rest of us something new to play with and enjoy. Maybe in the process, give us new types of sites to run that are actually worth the effort(Ghost Sites...)

Wormhole Mass and Timers: I'm against anything that makes the wormhole mass or timers even more random than what they already are. Due to the randomness of scanning through the chains and finding routes; there does need to be a semblence of "Method" to the madness. You can't merely say "Lets have the mass be so weird that half of an entire fleet can get disconnected". What does that do? You lose half your fleet who then have to self destruct and pod themselves out if the scout did'nt get setup ahead of time? The wormholes themselves are quite fine. You have no real indication of the 'exact' mass that has gone through, nor the 'time stamp' for the hole unless you are sure you're the one who opened it. There needs to be atleast that much of a standard for us to have as a baseline when it comes to moving fleets and doing maneuvers; otherwise no one will leave their home system.

I'm not sure random wormhole mass/time would improve anything, it would just cripple our ability to scan and find conflict and opportunity.

If you've ever done Quarantine sites in C5s and above, they have entirely random triggers. You definitely don't need to blob any site, we run C5s with only a handful of people, and solo C4s.

Random triggers, just means your FC and the fleet has to keep track of whats in the waves, that way you're only ever popping the initial wave before you move onto the second; and then finish the second before you move onto the third, etc, etc.

Example: You pop three ships in wave one, the third ship was the random trigger. You now have to finish what was in the first wave, because none of them will trigger wave three. If someone pops something in wave two and it spawns the third wave; you've just spawned the entire site in on you at once.

Anyone who has ran a fleet can easily call and mark targets to keep track of the waves; it just requires everyone in the fleet paying attention and listening; which is what we should all expect from the people we fly with.

Yeah introducing some new T3 tech, whether it be modules or ships, would be a great way to drum of more interest in wormhole space.

I always thought the Orca would make a good T3. People use it for so many different things already, command ship, fleet hangar, hauler, crash boat. Would be kinda cool to be able to tweak one towards what you use it for.

Good idea. If any non empire group were capable of making a T3 it would be ORE. A T3 Orca and a T3 industrial would be great.

Why can't we just get the basics right?

IE - POS fixes we were promised a year ago (hell i'd settle for a personal SMA)

Black holes with some actual purpose or + side to it

C4s perhaps being changed up a bit to increase the traffic/demand for them

Continue with the ship balancing path instead of adding useless un needed ones and more useless anchorable modules.



Until we can get the basics right i don't trust CCP to implement any new features in WH space because let's be realistic. It took them 3 months to patch out the wormhole wiggle thing that our CSM reps needed us to take footage of the week before the summit.

I like it.