EVE General Discussion

Highsec is profitable because of easy repetition. As long as highsec is highsec that will not change. The only way to fix it is to either nerf it to oblivion and take the loss of subs that comes with it, or remove it, and take the loss of subs and nightmare of a game that comes with it. But isk/time spent highsec always loses. So for the average player that grinds lvl 4's, yes highsec is profitable. For the incursion runner in their own sov space? No. For the mission runner that found that totally deserted lowsec patch with a lvl 4 agent? No. Seen many highsec belt ratters taking on BS spawns? I also have trouble getting officer spawns in Oursulaert. And I've yet to see a 10/10 DED in Dodixie. PI yields are the same across all sec bands though, right? And asteroid belts all contain the same ore?

No, repetition is the only thing highsec has going for it.

1 plex + a few missions is all it takes. Got someone into the game who bought one in less than a week after subbing. And you should see the rage caused by loosing something that someone equated to real money. this all ofcourse assumes that you truly can't think of a way to make that much in a couple weeks. I'm terribad at making isk so i wouldn't know.

Can't Code or Program

okay that was a bit mean

CCP want your sub, they don't give a **** where you play. Carebears in highsec pay as much as you do without pissing others off the game so why should anyone like you more?

Dont you think thats a tad cruel, given that CCP sure has made some lets say "non influential" decisions in the past and its affecting our future sure, but in context it is nothing more than a tactic to bring in new blood for the bloodsuckers out there and creating a meal fit for an army? I mean we all talk about how ruthless it can be and even with me playing as a carebear at the moment until I am more comfortable with a covert ops position which i am learning about ( but thats besides the point) but in short we are stating that CCP doesnt care about the players all because their priorities changed. I dont think we should be slamming the developers for doing something that might change the way the game is interpreted as. Sure the PVP content is lacking in some aspects but lets look at it from its basic foundation... Without the PvE content or as you guys call "carebears" the game would simply be one huge bloodbath and there would be no one to guide you along the path, you would be thrown into the abyss with no hopes of getting out.. Life is more than this.... "EVE" is a game nothing more, nothing less, it is not a religion, we are not going "hell" by playing the way we like... So sure we can talk about the developers and cry like whining spoiled rich children who dont get their way, but in the end do we see any of the financial reports? No.... we just see pretty words and promises in text... Instead of chastizing the developers and each other perhaps we need to just be the sitting ducks for awhile and wait to see what really happens in the next few months before starting another shitstorm. EVE is meant to be a place for everyone to do what they see it no matter what it is... its not Hilmar's fault... its not our fault... if anything the fault should lie dead with no one and just disappear. This is pointless to point the finger as in the end its only the players who are going to suffer from it.

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These thread are just so repetitive and annoying.

CCP are making more options to suite more people. Try think of it as 4 games with 4 regions of space with four player populations for a bit.

They will get around to fixing the others. People have their preferences and trying to move people from one of those to another is just plain stupid. So is the discussion of it.

I will keep repeating this because of the hotfix from today. If CCP can fix mechanics in the span of DAYS because incursion bears had a modicum of risk injected into their runaway ISK faucet why can't CCP fix glaring problems with mechanics in the same swoop. Case in point is logi not inheriting a session penalty for RR allowing logi to remain effectively invincible on station and star gates.

If they can do that to the aggression mechanics that fast why are people allowed to dock ships with aggro into carriers and play worthless games. It would seem the writing is on the wall as far as the fact that CCP is going to turn this game into dumbed down candy land where knowledge of mechanics is usurped by hand holding and faceted with bullshit loopholes that let the risk adverse have their cake and eat it too.

ITT People QQing that the game is becoming too easy because CCP is removing their risk free Metagriefing tricks.

God forbid you have to put a bit of work in to be an ass to someone else.

I'm down with this - but only if CCP increases the cost of Strip miners to about 70 or 80M each.
That way, you can gank a Hulk and make a profit. Shouldn't have to take a loss every time I kill a Hulk or Mackinaw.

Or are you trying to say that people should ONLY be ganking Haulers with huge payloads, or Officer fit CNRs?

Or is this a better way to blow up Hulks and earn a profit?

Find a miner in a Hulk.
Kill the Hulk.
Add the miner to your addressbook.
Demand a ransom. Threaten to gank them again in the future.
Miner pays, you win.
If miner doesn't pay, you use a locator agent and blow them up again, and again. Either way, you win.
Its not griefing, because all the victim has to do to stop the pain is pay you 200M or so.

Random Hulk ganking is fun.

Ganking the same miner over and over until they quit. Priceless. That is REAL PVP.

That's griefing and you can be banned for that... just saying