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Question about Scourge Missile

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unidenify
Deaf Armada
#1 - 2014-02-20 22:13:33 UTC
I always wonder how it would work in real life?

we can guess what Inferno missile would do (similar to incendiary bomb), or Nova(Nuclear payload)

But how Scourge missile work?

My guess is:
it would act as opposite gravity, repel matter away from point of denotation


I am interesting to see what other players think how it work.
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#2 - 2014-02-20 23:51:15 UTC
Kinetic energy weapon....

The weapon just slams into the target at high velocity. Same concept as a bullet. If you get something moving fast enough with enough mass there is no need for explosives, physics will take care of it for you.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-02-21 03:55:52 UTC
It could be a shaped impact device, causing the force of the impact to concentrate on a point smaller than the warhead. This method is used to detonate nuclear charges, but can also be used to penetrate armor. Some warheads use this method to punch through the armor intact and detonate from the inside of the target.

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stoicfaux
#4 - 2014-02-21 04:07:09 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
Ships bounce off each other and off of objects without damage. Our crews aren't plastered against the bulkheads during collisions. Railguns, the eptiome of real world kinetic weapons, have multiple ammo types which makes no sense. Railgun ammo affects range, tracking, cap usage, etc., which makes no sense for a real world railgun. Railgun rounds can't hit a stationary space station past 250km. Energy shields can absorb kinetic damage. Scourge missiles have it worse because "logically" a missile isn't going to be able to pack the energy necessary to propel a shrapnel at velocities even remotely similar to a ship mounted railgun.

Thus, I'm going to say that kinetic damage in EVE has nothing in common with real world kinetic kill weapons.

Ergo, scourge missiles (and EVE's kinetic damage weapons in general) work on some magic sci-fi principle completely unrelated to real world physics.

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-02-21 05:01:19 UTC
Railguns is where its at. What missile could match this quote?

Quote:

GUNNERY CHIEF
This, recruits, is a 20-kilo ferrous slug. Feel the weight. Every five seconds, the main gun of an Everest-class dreadnought accelerates one to 1.3 percent of light speed. It impacts with the force of a 38-kilotomb bomb. That is three times the yield of the city buster dropped on Hiroshima back on Earth. That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-***** in space. Now! Serviceman Burnside! What is Newton's First Law?

FIRST RECRUIT
Sir! A object in motion stays in motion, sir!

GUNNERY CHIEF
No credit for partial answers, maggot!

FIRST RECRUIT
Sir! Unless acted on by an outside force, sir!

GUNNERY CHIEF
Damn straight! I dare to assume you ignorant jackasses know that space is empty. Once you fire this husk of metal, it keeps going till it hits something. That can be a ship, or the planet behind that ship. It might go off into deep space and hit somebody else in ten thousand years. If you pull the trigger on this, you're ruining someone's day, somewhere and sometime. That is why you check your damn targets! That is why you wait for the computer to give you a damn firing solution! That is why, Serviceman Chung, we do not "eyeball it!" This is a weapon of mass destruction. You are not a cowboy shooting from the hip!

SECOND RECRUIT
Sir, yes sir!


I hope someday that speech becomes a reality.

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Samoth Egnoled
Caldari Provisions
#6 - 2014-02-21 07:42:22 UTC
Graygor wrote:
Railguns is where its at. What missile could match this quote?

Quote:

GUNNERY CHIEF
This, recruits, is a 20-kilo ferrous slug. Feel the weight. Every five seconds, the main gun of an Everest-class dreadnought accelerates one to 1.3 percent of light speed. It impacts with the force of a 38-kilotomb bomb. That is three times the yield of the city buster dropped on Hiroshima back on Earth. That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-***** in space. Now! Serviceman Burnside! What is Newton's First Law?

FIRST RECRUIT
Sir! A object in motion stays in motion, sir!

GUNNERY CHIEF
No credit for partial answers, maggot!

FIRST RECRUIT
Sir! Unless acted on by an outside force, sir!

GUNNERY CHIEF
Damn straight! I dare to assume you ignorant jackasses know that space is empty. Once you fire this husk of metal, it keeps going till it hits something. That can be a ship, or the planet behind that ship. It might go off into deep space and hit somebody else in ten thousand years. If you pull the trigger on this, you're ruining someone's day, somewhere and sometime. That is why you check your damn targets! That is why you wait for the computer to give you a damn firing solution! That is why, Serviceman Chung, we do not "eyeball it!" This is a weapon of mass destruction. You are not a cowboy shooting from the hip!

SECOND RECRUIT
Sir, yes sir!


I hope someday that speech becomes a reality.


Now is it wrong that i know that it's from Mass effect 3? atleast i believe it's 3.
Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-02-21 08:04:51 UTC
Yeah its from by the shuttle pad and the customs bit.

Though i think its 2.

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Samoth Egnoled
Caldari Provisions
#8 - 2014-02-21 08:06:50 UTC
I think your right, because everyone is all 'The end is nigh' in the 3rd one.
Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-02-21 10:43:46 UTC
Confirming the quote originates in Mass Effect 2. I played that game to death. Cool
Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#10 - 2014-02-21 16:16:51 UTC
How about we start wrapping our heads around electromagnetic projectile weapons that tear through armour.

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Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
#11 - 2014-02-22 13:18:23 UTC
unidenify wrote:
I always wonder how it would work in real life?

we can guess what Inferno missile would do (similar to incendiary bomb), or Nova(Nuclear payload)

But how Scourge missile work?

My guess is:
it would act as opposite gravity, repel matter away from point of denotation


I am interesting to see what other players think how it work.


They're graviton warheads if I recall correctly, so probably something like a very short-lived pulse of intense gravity, tearing material apart at the molecular level through tidal forces.
XNCReman
Soviet Directorate of Eve
#12 - 2014-02-23 01:08:51 UTC
They are simple, a few tons of tungsten or DU traveling at 10,000+ m/s... Do the math.