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Class 7 Wormhole Suggestion
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HTIDRaver
Neurosurgical Reconstruction Centre
#1 - 2014-02-18 09:21:56 UTC
Just a thought for the advancement of wormhole culture.

Potential changes?
-> Carrier and Dread class sleepers.
-> Sleepers spawn on wormholes inside the C7 hole (as NPCs do on gates in k-space).
-> Sleepers spawn on POSs and engage POS mods.. maybe even the tower itself.
-> Certain Sleepers drop resources allowing the construction of "Tech III" styled combat drones.

Some late night drunken thoughts...
Lina Theist
Running out of Space
ExoGenesis Consortium
#2 - 2014-02-18 09:46:20 UTC
A conflictdriver would be fun. Perhaps there being only a single C7 system with random environmental effects after each DT?
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#3 - 2014-02-18 09:50:49 UTC
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No trolling please
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-02-18 09:51:36 UTC
There are C7 systems already, theyre called HS

There is no Bob.

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Winthorp
#5 - 2014-02-18 10:06:02 UTC
I expected better from you OP.
Caius Beriat
O'Coin Enterprises
#6 - 2014-02-18 10:25:03 UTC
OP is out of the gang for this one.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-02-18 10:42:29 UTC
I fully support this proposal with a slight tweak... There should only be four C7 wormholes, they have no moons (i.e. no POS) and they only connect to C6 wormholes.

I've heard that wormholes were originally designed to have fluctuating system effects, so something like this would be reletively easy to implement.

How any wormholer (especially one running for CSM) can be against adding a new class of wormhole is beyond me.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#8 - 2014-02-18 10:44:43 UTC
Because we have so many unoccupied ones, along with the fact "fix black holes bro". It's not needed until we can sort out what we have already. Adding something for the sake of adding something while other areas need attention is silly. How any wormholer can be against that is beyond me.

No trolling please
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-02-18 10:51:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
So how do you propose we entice new people to wormhole space without adding new stuff?

Who really cares about fixing black holes? All you would be doing it opening up more systems for farmers to farm. Plus, as you say, there are already some many empty systems.

Look at the bigger picture Bane.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Winthorp
#10 - 2014-02-18 10:57:05 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:
So how do you propose we entice new people to wormhole space without adding new stuff?

Who really cares about fixing black holes? All you would be doing it opening up more systems for farmers to farm. Plus, as you say, there are already some many empty systems.

Look at the bigger picture Bane.


Rek, have you even read the OP? Its all about more damn farming?

Maybe if we fixed the bad crap in Wh's and fixed POS's so that small low class corps could recruit without getting screwed all the time it would help too...
Winthorp
#11 - 2014-02-18 10:57:57 UTC
HTIDRaver wrote:
JPotential changes?
-> Carrier and Dread class sleepers.
-> Sleepers spawn on wormholes inside the C7 hole (as NPCs do on gates in k-space).
-> Sleepers spawn on POSs and engage POS mods.. maybe even the tower itself.
-> Certain Sleepers drop resources allowing the construction of "Tech III" styled combat drones..


For Rek to read again.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-02-18 11:05:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
Winthorp wrote:
HTIDRaver wrote:
JPotential changes?
-> Carrier and Dread class sleepers.
-> Sleepers spawn on wormholes inside the C7 hole (as NPCs do on gates in k-space).
-> Sleepers spawn on POSs and engage POS mods.. maybe even the tower itself.
-> Certain Sleepers drop resources allowing the construction of "Tech III" styled combat drones..


For Rek to read again.


Isk farming isn't mentioned once. He talks about adding new tech (t3 drones), new sleeper ships and new AI behavior.

The sleepers that camp wormholes and attack POS don't have to drop blue tags.

FYI, a pos revamp isn't happening.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#13 - 2014-02-18 11:07:00 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:
So how do you propose we entice new people to wormhole space without adding new stuff?

Who really cares about fixing black holes? All you would be doing it opening up more systems for farmers to farm. Plus, as you say, there are already some many empty systems.


- Lower class wormhole space could use some attention, as it tends to be more densely populated. The isk from sleepers and other avenues of pve is very weak in c2 space. Maybe a slight bump in isk earning potential would do some good. Maybe even some bigger corps for N0mex to play with. haha! Be gentle guys.

- Giving C4s dual statics, one c5/c6 and one low class connection. Maybe even allow caps to jump in and out of c4s to higher class wh's, but keeping the same mass. I literally just thought of this part, so it could be a horrid idea. haha

- Fixing the self destruct inside pos shield mechanism would be fantastic as well. If not abolishing it, then give it a penalty. Something along the lines of damaging the pos when a ship sd's. This would also drive conflict because LOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

- The T3 "adjustments" I am curious to see. It MIGHT have an effect on how fleets are flown.

- Fix the damn auto sig update. You should have to scan to find a new sig. It shouldn't just automatically show up. Work for your intel you lazy bastards.

These are just a few things I can think of at 6am in the morning. I will put together something semi official as to what I believe could help.

No trolling please
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#14 - 2014-02-18 11:09:25 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:


Isk farming isn't mentioned once.


When you mention capital sleepers, the isk farming community get a boner thinking "capital sleeper wrecks"

Rek Seven wrote:


FYI, a pos revamp isn't happening.


Sadly for all of us, you might be right here.

No trolling please
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-02-18 11:11:51 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:

These are just a few things I can think of at 6am in the morning. I will put together something semi official as to what I believe could help.


Yeah i don't really like all those ideas but get some sleep and I'll look forward to reading/trolling your future thread. Blink

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Winthorp
#16 - 2014-02-18 11:13:15 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:
Winthorp wrote:
HTIDRaver wrote:
JPotential changes?
-> Carrier and Dread class sleepers.
-> Sleepers spawn on wormholes inside the C7 hole (as NPCs do on gates in k-space).
-> Sleepers spawn on POSs and engage POS mods.. maybe even the tower itself.
-> Certain Sleepers drop resources allowing the construction of "Tech III" styled combat drones..


For Rek to read again.


Isk farming isn't mentioned once. He talks about adding new tech (t3 drones), new sleeper ships and new AI behavior.

The sleepers that camp wormholes and attack POS don't have to drop blue tags.

FYI, a pos revamp isn't happening.


The only thing you are not delusional about here is the POS fixes.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-02-18 11:17:08 UTC
Let's not resort to insults, Winthorp and instead, use your big boy words to explain your point of view.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#18 - 2014-02-18 11:19:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Lloyd Roses
I suggest farming c7-sleepers with a carrier for excellent results. Keep an eye on local ;)
Winthorp
#19 - 2014-02-18 11:21:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Winthorp
Rek Seven wrote:
Let's not resort to insults, Winthorp and instead, use your big boy words to explain your point of view.


I will use my big words when you trying reading the OP properly.

-> Carrier and Dread class sleepers.
- Code for escalations don't yield enough loots.

-> Sleepers spawn on wormholes inside the C7 hole (as NPCs do on gates in k-space).
- I want free loots just hanging on every WH i jump into.

-> Sleepers spawn on POSs and engage POS mods.. maybe even the tower itself.
- I want free loots coming to m POS that will eventually be figured out and farmed regularly.

-> Certain Sleepers drop resources allowing the construction of "Tech III" styled combat drones.
- If you don't think this one isn't about ISK i can't spell it out any further for you.

If any of you think we need more ISK in higher class holes and not in the lower ones, i don't know how to explain that further to you without using some more of my "special" words.

And as a note calling you delusional isn't an insult if its fact.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-02-18 11:24:59 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Because we have so many unoccupied ones,....


wormholes were never intended to be 'occupied'

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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