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Newbie dies in lowsec, then quits.

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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#21 - 2014-02-18 04:00:16 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
It's a good thing. There is no downside to someone finding out early on that they aren't ready for this game.

That is one less future carebear whiner asking for nerfs to aggression and trying to get CCP to put barriers into player interaction. That's a positive outcome and your newbie has done New Eden a service.

Yes, it is always good when players leave your subscriber based MMO.
Salvos Rhoska
#22 - 2014-02-18 04:14:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
He's probably still in the game. Or will be back soon enough. Just more cautious and never again will he target an asteroid in panic.
I mean, even your guy hasn't actually subbed yet for that matter.

As high as attrition is in EVE, retention is greater. But this truly isn't a game for everyone, and I'm frequently shocked how utterly clueless even substantially more experienced players than I am, are.

I think the over-reaction is rather more on the part of some of the posters here and their over-active imaginations about "how the other guy must be crying in rage!", whereas the truth is he's more like the fat guy in Southparks WoW episode.

But ofc if it makes the experience more enjoyable to imagine the other guy like the Angry German Kid smashing his keyboard (which is fake btw), well, its your imagination and you are free to use it as you wish. More power to ya.

And besides, we've all raged at one time or another. Admit it.
If not in this game, then in another.
And if not in a game, then at some other equally banal failure in ones life.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Cheng Musana
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2014-02-18 04:28:56 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Now EVE is a bit less overpopulated.

Overpopulated? More like underpopulated. When ya fly around nullsec you barely see any 1 apart in the bottleneck systems.
Aargolos
Estrale Frontiers
#24 - 2014-02-18 04:36:35 UTC
Shouldn't have been in lowsec.

Hell, I killed so many ******* rifters just in pve the first week trying to figure **** out it's not funny.

That being said, he could have offered some advice or something...rather than just LOLOLOL at him.

Some of the best stuff I've learned came after a 'GF' in local and turned into a good convo after just swallowing lost pride and private convo'ing the guy(s) that just exploded my ship.

Yeah, people in EvE in want to kill the **** out of you. Especially the newbies/bears/etc.

Understand you're going to die. Everytime you undock. Even in highsec. Especially if your new.

Don't throw a fit. Don't give them any tears. Don't give up.

You've got to be able to convo the people that just violenced you, and laugh about it, and move on. More often than not, you'll find they're not assholes out to ruin the experience for YOU; they're just playing the game their way and you made a bad decision...while providing them content they enjoyed.

You have to be able to laugh at yourself and your mistakes. In an 'MMO', you might just make new friends in the process.

Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#25 - 2014-02-18 04:49:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Hal Morsh
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
This is what happens when you've spent your entire career in the forest killing boars.



I used to play a game, people told me it looked like WoW, but anyways PVP was available in every map except the newbie areas. It also has some sick skill animations.

The system went something like this.

If you attacked someone you want purple named, like Suspect in eve. Attacking anyone white or purple named made you purple as well.

If you killed someone who wasn't purple named you would go red, unable to teleport and killable without going purple named. Basically like criminal, if you killed a TON of people and then died while red? Youd get stuck in jail to sit around doing nothing.

Thing is you didn't ever lose anything on death. So this leads to uber powerfull strong pay to win players owning all the spots people hung around in. I just left when it got to a point that I couldn't compete anymore.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Aargolos
Estrale Frontiers
#26 - 2014-02-18 04:55:24 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
This is what happens when you've spent your entire career in the forest killing boars.



I used to play a game, people told me it looked like WoW, but anyways PVP was available in every map except the newbie areas. It also has some sick skill animations.

The system went something like this.

If you attacked someone you want purple named, like Suspect in eve. Attacking anyone white or purple named made you purple as well.

If you killed someone who wasn't purple named you would go red, unable to teleport and killable without going purple named. Basically like criminal, if you killed a TON of people and then died while red? Youd get stuck in jail to sit around doing nothing.

Thing is you didn't ever lose anything on death. So this leads to uber powerfull strong pay to win players owning all the spots people hung around in. I just left when it got to a point that I couldn't compete anymore.


Awesome.
Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
#27 - 2014-02-18 06:01:42 UTC
Shederov Blood wrote:
Hal Morsh wrote:
Oh now you don't believe in the code do you?
Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful Code controlling everything.

The source code. P


SCNR Lol
Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
#28 - 2014-02-18 06:03:37 UTC
Shederov Blood wrote:
Hal Morsh wrote:
Oh now you don't believe in the code do you?
Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful Code controlling everything.




Legend.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Alastair Ormand
Mine all the things
#29 - 2014-02-18 06:06:38 UTC
Go back to WoW and pick up your free gear scrub...

Welcome to Eve, hope your ship burns as bad as your temper does.

I discourage running with scissors.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#30 - 2014-02-18 07:22:34 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
Yes, it is always good when players leave your subscriber based MMO.


It isn't player's job to take care about subscriptions and keeping players around. If CCP can't do it that is their problem. I pay to play and I play how I like because my money my time my way. I will tend to every newbie I meet when CCP starts paying me for playing Eve, until then I will explode every newborn I can catch.

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Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#31 - 2014-02-18 09:06:03 UTC
I also think its good to have new players. This guy isnt one of them it seems. Next?
Victor Andall
#32 - 2014-02-18 09:23:16 UTC
I see no problem with this.

I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?

19.08.2014 - Dinsdale gets slammed by CCP Falcon. Never forget.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#33 - 2014-02-18 12:21:29 UTC
I once killed a badly fit Tempest in a lowsec belt. The guy went ballistic. I tried staying polite and give him some advice, but he just would not cool down. Instead he bountied me for 1B, and told me I "ruined everything" (among various allegations of homosexuality) and he was going to quit Eve. What struck me as odd was that he was rich enough to replace his Tempest twice over. Instead he choose to put the ISK on my head and go on a verbal rampage. I'm pretty sure I saved a CEO some future headaches somewhere. We are better off without people that can't take their losses in stride. That being said, there is no reason to diss a newbie you just blew up. It's just not very classy.
Corvinus Blackwell
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2014-02-18 12:22:16 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Nexus Day wrote:
Yes, it is always good when players leave your subscriber based MMO.


It isn't player's job to take care about subscriptions and keeping players around. If CCP can't do it that is their problem. I pay to play and I play how I like because my money my time my way. I will tend to every newbie I meet when CCP starts paying me for playing Eve, until then I will explode every newborn I can catch.


You seem to make a point of attacking new players. Is this because you can't win against competent players who have had time to learn the game?
Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
#35 - 2014-02-18 12:33:29 UTC
Pix Severus wrote:
Hal Morsh wrote:
Well then.

In other news, Hubble telescope discovers Dramiel.

http://pictures.mastermarf.com/blog/2010/100204-p2010-a2.jpg


Weren't warp trails disabled back in 2010? I call shenanigans.

It only means the said Dramiel is at least 4 light years away.

As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#36 - 2014-02-18 12:50:44 UTC
To the OP, considering your previous thread that I posted in I would dare say that this is a loss to the game and more specifically a potential loss to your game. It is a player that could have been someone who would be willing to help bait, tackle, or even boost your gang when your friends drop by for some play. That being said I am not blaming you or your noob for the others reactions and subsequent actions.

Salvos Rhoska wrote:


And besides, we've all raged at one time or another. Admit it.
If not in this game, then in another.
And if not in a game, then at some other equally banal failure in ones life.


Oh I have truly raged in public once in real life. I then turned around and a father was standing there with his two daughters who were both less than 8 years of age and I immediately went Oops and apologized to the father. He looked at me and said it happens. Since then I have never raged at another individual as usually I can pin point something that I did that lead to the situation ending as it did. That being said I internally rage at myself on a daily basis Straight
Serene Repose
#37 - 2014-02-18 13:43:39 UTC
*golf clap*

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#38 - 2014-02-18 14:05:41 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
It's a good thing. There is no downside to someone finding out early on that they aren't ready for this game.

That is one less future carebear whiner asking for nerfs to aggression and trying to get CCP to put barriers into player interaction. That's a positive outcome and your newbie has done New Eden a service.

Yes, it is always good when players leave your subscriber based MMO.

He didn't really leave, though, he just didn't join fully. Figuring out early whether to get in for the long haul rather than figuring out late and being bitter about it is indeed a good thing.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-02-18 14:50:12 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Nexus Day wrote:
Yes, it is always good when players leave your subscriber based MMO.


It isn't player's job to take care about subscriptions and keeping players around. If CCP can't do it that is their problem. I pay to play and I play how I like because my money my time my way. I will tend to every newbie I meet when CCP starts paying me for playing Eve, until then I will explode every newborn I can catch.


How many of us realized this was the game for us after loosing a ship (and pod for me) to another player? Kill as many as you can I say. And I've been nice and helped a few newbies; even given them some isk. But anyone who starts out the convo with "**** you" like OP's victim will get nothing but trolling.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#40 - 2014-02-18 14:51:57 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
Well then.

In other news, Hubble telescope discovers Dramiel.

http://pictures.mastermarf.com/blog/2010/100204-p2010-a2.jpg

****, was pretty sure i was going to fast for it to catch me, GRRR CCP see what happen when you nerf it? even hubble can catch it now.....