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Kryptik Kai
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#41 - 2014-02-16 11:39:12 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:


Perhaps actually reading before responding might be a good first step for you.


Perhaps learning to play before posting might be a good first step for you.

"Shiny.  Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb
Katrinna Voight-Kampf
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2014-02-16 11:43:41 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:


The only sugestion that works is having a alt scott. Forcing a player to buy two accounts just to pvp makes perfect sense.
Or having friends.... OMG!!!111!! Friends in an MMO, who'da thunk it????


Who cares about "solo" pvp anymore.
Katrinna Voight-Kampf
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2014-02-16 11:45:31 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Are you really trying to defend this broken mechanic...


Nothing to defend, because if you don't qualify what makes it broken, and just claim that it is, then you haven't put up an argument that requires rebuttal.


Nothing should be immune to anything, but at the same time nothing should be unavoidable. Right now, instalocking camps are unavoidable. If you jump into one, you're getting caught.


I avoid them all the time, get on my level.


Blob FTW
Katrinna Voight-Kampf
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-02-16 11:47:04 UTC
Kryptik Kai wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:


Perhaps actually reading before responding might be a good first step for you.


Perhaps learning to play before posting might be a good first step for you.


That's probably it, im dying to insta lock gate camps, i need to learn to play.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#45 - 2014-02-16 11:48:12 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Kryptik Kai wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:


Perhaps actually reading before responding might be a good first step for you.


Perhaps learning to play before posting might be a good first step for you.


That's probably it, im dying to insta lock gate camps, i need to learn to play.
That's the first sensible post you've made. I think we are getting some where.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#46 - 2014-02-16 11:49:44 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Are you really trying to defend this broken mechanic...


Nothing to defend, because if you don't qualify what makes it broken, and just claim that it is, then you haven't put up an argument that requires rebuttal.


Nothing should be immune to anything, but at the same time nothing should be unavoidable. Right now, instalocking camps are unavoidable. If you jump into one, you're getting caught.


I avoid them all the time, get on my level.


Blob FTW


Blob =/= avoid

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
Katrinna Voight-Kampf
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-02-16 11:50:14 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Kryptik Kai wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:


Perhaps actually reading before responding might be a good first step for you.


Perhaps learning to play before posting might be a good first step for you.


That's probably it, im dying to insta lock gate camps, i need to learn to play.
That's the first sensible post you've made. I think we are getting some where.


Yes, i will buy a new account so i can have a scott to avoid insta lock gate camps. Their, problem solved, i have learned to play, im a pro at this, i avoid all insta lock gate camps.
Uma D
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2014-02-16 11:51:46 UTC
Hey CCP,

I like camping a gate once in a while, but i find it really unfair that i need to fit my ship accordingly if I want to catch fast warping ships, please give all my ships a scan resolution of 1500+ so I do not need any sensor boosters or remote sensor boosters in order to catch small ships.

The way it is now it takes planning and a very specialized setup for my tackling ship to get the task done, this mechanic is clearly broken!
Mag's
Azn Empire
#49 - 2014-02-16 11:51:57 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:


That's probably it, im dying to insta lock gate camps, i need to learn to play.
That's the first sensible post you've made. I think we are getting some where.


Yes, i will buy a new account so i can have a scott to avoid insta lock gate camps. Their, problem solved, i have learned to play, im a pro at this, i avoid all insta lock gate camps.
One step forward, two steps back. Roll

And who is this Scott you keep mentioning? Is it the docking manager?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2014-02-16 11:52:18 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:


The only sugestion that works is having a alt scott. Forcing a player to buy two accounts just to pvp makes perfect sense.
Or having friends.... OMG!!!111!! Friends in an MMO, who'da thunk it????


Who cares about "solo" pvp anymore.


Instalock gate camps don't prevent solo pvp. They enable it. You fly into one solo, and you fight it.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Katrinna Voight-Kampf
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2014-02-16 11:54:07 UTC
Let just hope this problem is solved with the incoming T3 rebalance and the removal of OGB.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#52 - 2014-02-16 11:54:51 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Let just hope this problem is solved with the incoming T3 rebalance and the removal of OGB.
What problem?

If you mean your posting, it won't.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Katrinna Voight-Kampf
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2014-02-16 11:56:58 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:


The only sugestion that works is having a alt scott. Forcing a player to buy two accounts just to pvp makes perfect sense.
Or having friends.... OMG!!!111!! Friends in an MMO, who'da thunk it????


Who cares about "solo" pvp anymore.


Instalock gate camps don't prevent solo pvp. They enable it. You fly into one solo, and you fight it.


Good luck fighting T3 ships+logistic with a FW Merlin frigate.

But at least you have gate guns, they are awesome and balance things out...
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#54 - 2014-02-16 11:57:59 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Let just hope this problem is solved with the incoming T3 rebalance and the removal of OGB.


T3s have covops, nullifier subs and can refit in system from mobile depots to a combat fit whether or not they can dock.

What exact thing other than "almost invulnerable to gate camps in any sec already" do you need ?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2014-02-16 11:59:12 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Let just hope this problem is solved with the incoming T3 rebalance and the removal of OGB.
What problem?

If you mean your posting, it won't.


This. There's no problem. You have just gone on a rant about instalock gate camps and how they hurt you, and the only one that seems to have a problem is you. In which case, if there is a problem, it's really only your problem.

You claimed it makes solo PVP too hard. As a solo PVP'er, I can tell you right now, you're wrong. If you're a solo PVP'er, and you're losing a ship for every kill, you're already doing better than the gatecampers and the blobbers anyway, so what's your problem? Let them feel like they are glorious for a moment while you slink away in your pod, and get set up for your next awesome fight.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2014-02-16 12:02:13 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:


The only sugestion that works is having a alt scott. Forcing a player to buy two accounts just to pvp makes perfect sense.
Or having friends.... OMG!!!111!! Friends in an MMO, who'da thunk it????


Who cares about "solo" pvp anymore.


Instalock gate camps don't prevent solo pvp. They enable it. You fly into one solo, and you fight it.


Good luck fighting T3 ships+logistic with a FW Merlin frigate.

But at least you have gate guns, they are awesome and balance things out...


Did you just miss the part where I pointed out that some losses are inevitable, and that's EVE, or did you just willingly ignore it?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2014-02-16 12:04:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
All this has reminded me of getting blobbed yesterday, and I'll tell you what I tell people I'm training for PVP: it's about attitude. Not mechanics, not fits, not skills, they are merely the tools. How you PVP is in your attitude.

"Advance, and never halt, for advancing is perfection. Advance and do not fear the thorns in the path, for they draw only corrupt blood."

~ Khalil Gibran

Imagine the thorns are gatecamps, and you're learning something from them each time you go through one.

It took seven guys yesterday, including EWAR, to kill my Cyclone. You know what I said?

"Good fight guys, I am honoured that you felt me dangerous enough to drop seven ships on me. Take care."

And I wasn't lying.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Katrinna Voight-Kampf
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2014-02-16 12:07:19 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Or having friends.... OMG!!!111!! Friends in an MMO, who'da thunk it????


Who cares about "solo" pvp anymore.


Instalock gate camps don't prevent solo pvp. They enable it. You fly into one solo, and you fight it.


Good luck fighting T3 ships+logistic with a FW Merlin frigate.

But at least you have gate guns, they are awesome and balance things out...


Did you just miss the part where I pointed out that some losses are inevitable, and that's EVE, or did you just willingly ignore it?


Did you just miss the part where I pointed out that there's a difference between risk-free and guaranteed death?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2014-02-16 12:08:47 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Did you just miss the part where I pointed out that there's a difference between risk-free and guaranteed death?


Did you miss the part where I pointed out that difference is irrelevant because there's no such thing as risk-free in EVE?

You really are trying hard to save face, aren't you.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Good Posting
Doomheim
#60 - 2014-02-16 12:10:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Good Posting
The only solution for a solo player is a scout-support account, if you can afford it. Map statistics are very useful but not 100% accurate.
You can play eve alone with a single accout if you want, but i recommend to get a second account if you want to live in low-null-wspace.

I live in non-fw low sec and i use a Falcon. Scout+site scanner+pro disengage all in one best ship ever111111.