EVE General Discussion

Posting in stealth "Neck Beards in NeX store" thread.

I feel that you're blowing what the OP said out of proportion. He simply said a picture of a woman instead of a picture of CCP guard. I dunno why you wouldn't want to stare at CCP Guards face all day, caress i- I digress. But you immediately assumed that he meant a picture of a woman showing some epic side boob, touching her bum and saying "degenerate me you sadistic, sick males. Your power fantasy is soooo big". At least that's what I assume your thinking about with a picture of a female, because I fail to see how an image of a female on the launcher would be degenerating unless it was similar to what I described.

I also, however, feel that any woman who enters a game and complains about there being too many men with female avatars are the kinds of players that wouldn't enjoy the game in the first place. Let's face it, only a relatively small number of people make it past the tutorials and become a long time EVE player, due to the small quirks they have with the game (too slow paced, general gameplay/overlay issues they may have that they can't get over, etc.). Due to this, I somehow can't think that a woman who enters a game and the forefront of her thought is "oh there better not be any male power fantasies in this" is missing the point of the game, and will get caught up with the little issues with the games.

Then I feel like you just had a rant about feminisim for the sake of having a rant. Maybe it was just pent up rage, but the OP here isn't some twisted individual like you're making him out to be. If he decides to not sneak some smooches on CCP Guards face before the game turns on, that's totally his choice.

I would like a female as well, maybe a girl kneeling on a bed bent over showing her support with the cute asian girl peace sign, or perhaps we can get a bisexual miley cyrus cougar who has an acne problem but wears a lot of makeup and still looks good to be on the launcher.

Who asked for a denigrating picture of a woman? Or do you propose that all photographs of women are somehow denigrating, and we should never photograph them at all?

Does this include virtual women, who never existed?

I hear what you're saying, and I concede it's possible I have read a lot into what the OP said. My assumption is based off the fact that he's come on here, made a pretty unhelpful, short OP in GD (nothing new right? ) asking for an "attractive female". You seem to be a reasonable person: is my assumption that unreasonable?

Your point about the male fantasy being secondary to the general barrier to incoming EVE tutorialees is also a fair one. It's true that more people will be turned away because they found it too complicated in one aspect or another, but does that mean we can just use it as an excuse? I'd also have to disagree with your point that a feminist woman is more likely to not make it past the tutorials because they're too "caught up with the little issues" (also any level of misogyny =/= "little"!), but I'm not sure that's what you meant given your post was otherwise reasonable! Maybe I was having a bit of a pent-up rant - I'd also say that's a fair comment.




I don't think I've ever read a less coherent jump of logic. We go from my dissatisfaction with the OP's wanting an "attractive female" (which, as I outlined, I have reasonably or otherwise assumed conforms to the p3 Sun model or thereabouts) to a proposition (from me, apparently!) that women should never be photographed. Right...

As for the virtual point, which might have some merit, I don't think we can make excuses by saying "it's virtual, don't worry!", especially given how that line is increasingly blurred by photoshop etc.

Moron LeBlade, more like.

So I accept that sexism exists, even today. But I don't think it's smart for any woman to be so angry and spend so much energy brewing hate about it all the time, everywhere.

Do you raise a fit when you see a man go on a date and voluntarily pick up the bill just because he's the guy?
Do you raise a fit when you see divorce laws completely ruin a man's life and sets up a comfortable life for his ex?
Do you raise a fit when you see a man open the door, pull the chair out, or give up his coat for his woman?

Why choose to be so angry about the biological fact that men generally like the sight of attractive women?

Millions of women,attractive and unattractive, are out there doing great things and being happy.

The thing they have in common is that they're not angry feminists who see themselves as victims only expected to cook and provide pussy, blaming men and society every chance they get.



So yeah..... I don't think a guy preferring the image of an attractive female to the image of a man showing teeth should ruin anyone's day.

Are there kitchens in space?


And before someone gets offended, it was my wife who thought of that one!

I would prefer the first one.

The point he was making is that asking for an attractive woman in the launcher instead of a man is basically saying that the only use for a woman in that position is attractiveness. You're reducing her to being something pretty to look at. Bear in mind we'd also be talking about a real woman here, not some stupid CGI character made in a video game.