EVE General Discussion

I think it's more about setting an expectation than any of the other **** that has been described here. If you undock with the expectation that someone else is going to blow you up as soon as the loading screen has you outside the station, you are better equipped to prepare for and prevent said blowing up of stuff.

If, on the other hand, you undock without that expectation - well that's on you.

If I shoot an ostrich with a rifle, it isn't going to matter if he has his head in the sand. That ******* bird is going to die.

People get riled up by the idea because it challenges their assumptions of what they may be entitled to in the game. Using "consent" is the most direct way to challenge those assumptions. This is not trolling.



You also seem to have missed the "Eve players are psychopaths" thread. Please project your value judgements somewhere else where people will care.

Okay, how about this:

I consent to playing in a PvP focused game.
I acknowledge that fact by how I fit my ship or by what cargo I carry or by how I fly.
Do I consent to having my ship blown up? Not really, especially if I was trying to avoid it in the first place.

Probably the only time people consent to have their ship blown up is for things like insurance fraud, or for that FW isk/LP currency manipulation the goons did a while back.

Whether or not you specifically "care" about my posts in no way prevents them from happening. Get off your high horse.

Sending an in game mail, or shouting in local after a pvp match such things as "you suck noob" is poor sportsmanship at best. Look at that; even though Batelle wanted to stop me from posting, it still happened. And I was judging someone's actions. Crazy.

Really, you don't have to subscribe to this video game. You give your money freely to CCP and in return they let you authenticate to the servers. The game has always been advertized as a place with Player vs. Player combat. You might win said PvP or even lose. It was part of the package that was sold to you, this package is deliverable when you hit the undock button.

When you undock, and fly around the world of Eve you might get blown up; by an ebil pirate, by a fluffy carebear, by anyone in between. Everyone has to deal with this; Me, Tippia, Harkonnan, even you Shrewd Tsero.

If you're mad at losing a ship recently you're probably thinking about things from the prospective of the gankee. Take some time though to imagine yourself as the ganker. There is the thrill of victory for ganking a ship, but also the possibility of defeat if ships get away, or put you down instead, or end up being a trap. Embrace the fighting, once you do some fights become fun even to lose, you'll know the reason why people say the undock button is consent to PvP, and you'll have a much more enjoyable game.

P.S. The original poster does fly some pretty slutty ships.

You should see what I'm wearing....

Well that and the fact we don't have any stupid pandas.

Dont split hairs when all you have is half knowledge, hearsay and conjecture.

If you really want an answer to that question instead of trolling around in the most pedantic nerdway imaginable go ask your lawyer and be done with it.

I think the term you are looking for is 'tacit consent'.

Undocking, warping to an instaundock and then cloaking until downtime "permits" people to PvP with you? Please tell me how so I can deal with this annoying afk cloakers