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Dev Blog: Alliance Logos & You - Clarification on submissions

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AIric Vitex
Money Crew
#461 - 2015-03-11 00:54:41 UTC
Were getting cookie cutters after almost a year. Come on already.
Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#462 - 2015-03-19 18:46:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Akrasjel Lanate
Alliance logos back April 15th Blink

New logos

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#463 - 2015-03-19 22:33:25 UTC
The watermark looks just as dumb as I thought it would.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#464 - 2015-03-20 01:31:38 UTC
CCP thinks that Pepsi will be okay with me putting their logo on **** and calling it my own intellectual property if I scratch it up and put my own logo right next to it. Because that's their logic.
It's ******* stupid and so is whoever thought of this.
Mirkali Maricadie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#465 - 2015-03-20 02:23:23 UTC
Yeah... I think Sion said it best in the CSM9 Minutes:

Quote:

Sion Kumitomo: The question is, it’s been what, 11 years? And how many times have you been accosted by a player for IP rights?

CCP Falcon: Zero, nil, none.

Sion Kumitomo: So as far as your risk profile here, it is not high. When people see their logo being used
on something official, their first thought is hooray.


Apart from that, I was hoping they'd tell them this was non-negotiable. Full Stop. But hey, they were elected to CSM because they can compromise. We'll see how this actually plays out once they push it.
JSSix
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#466 - 2015-03-21 12:50:16 UTC
Looks like this is soon to reopen again... after a very long wait :)
Jon Hellguard
X-COM
#467 - 2015-04-01 11:50:16 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
CCP thinks that Pepsi will be okay with me putting their logo on **** and calling it my own intellectual property if I scratch it up and put my own logo right next to it. Because that's their logic.
It's ******* stupid and so is whoever thought of this.


I think "Torfi" is head of IP. I wouldn't call this guy stupid - ever. Nor should you. Lets be happy that we still can have our own alliance logos and not have to use some crappy kind of shape-selection builder.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#468 - 2015-04-01 12:12:46 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
The watermark looks just as dumb as I thought it would.


better than removing the whole service and being stuck with a standard crappy logo?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#469 - 2015-04-01 12:18:46 UTC
Neither of those are acceptable options.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#470 - 2015-04-01 12:23:41 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Neither of those are acceptable options.


so whats your solution?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#471 - 2015-04-01 12:41:51 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Neither of those are acceptable options.


so whats your solution?

A universal, assignable, irrevocable and royalty-free license to use.
It's an even better solution for CCP than CCP's own solution, considering in many (most?) jurisdictions their proposal doesn't actually solve any of the problems they're claiming it does. A derivative work doesn't suddenly resolve the issues with using somebody else's intellectual property.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#472 - 2015-04-01 12:48:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Neither of those are acceptable options.


so whats your solution?

A universal, assignable, irrevocable and royalty-free license to use.
It's an even better solution for CCP than CCP's own solution, considering in many (most?) jurisdictions their proposal doesn't actually solve any of the problems they're claiming it does. A derivative work doesn't suddenly resolve the issues with using somebody else's intellectual property.


but you also chose to upload your logo, they are not breaching anything because you are the one who wants your logo on their game so you agree to there terms or dont upload

and who exactly gets a royalty free license?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#473 - 2015-04-01 12:50:34 UTC
You didn't even read what I said, did you?
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#474 - 2015-04-01 12:52:25 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
You didn't even read what I said, did you?


yeah but kinda read it wrong,

so who exactly gets a royalty free licence?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#475 - 2015-04-01 12:52:41 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
and who exactly gets a royalty free license?

The uploader would be the one granting CCP the license.
Albert Madullier
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#476 - 2015-04-11 09:23:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Albert Madullier
any updates on this?

its been forever and to be quite frank its non issue that ccp have made into an issue
JSSix
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#477 - 2015-04-13 23:03:36 UTC
According to CCP.... during Fanfest...

Alliance Logo Submission will be Open Tomorrow (14-04-2015).

we will see?
Citricioni
#478 - 2015-04-14 14:09:47 UTC
JSSix wrote:
According to CCP.... during Fanfest...

Alliance Logo Submission will be Open Tomorrow (14-04-2015).

we will see?


AND WE SEE WHAAAAAT? :D
JSSix
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#479 - 2015-04-15 08:29:55 UTC
actually they said the 15th.... which is today.... but ye I see Space.... like a vast Nothing but Empty :p


maybe they thought we would forget it? :D
Citricioni
#480 - 2015-04-15 11:00:50 UTC
JSSix wrote:
actually they said the 15th.... which is today.... but ye I see Space.... like a vast Nothing but Empty :p


maybe they thought we would forget it? :D


Maybe after Downtime :D