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Dearest Providence;
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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-02-12 07:23:36 UTC
Hello space friends;

I would like to visit your space and witness the Great Golden Fleet; however, I have been told that I am "KOS" in the region, and that I am not welcome. Having heard nothing but positive things with regards to the fidelity and hospitality of the Providence Holders and their associates, I would like to believe that I have been misinformed. And so it is with all due humility and reverence that I request correspondence on this matter, such that I may secure pilgrimage for myself and some compatriots.

I eagerly await the response of the Holders.

Amarr Victor.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#2 - 2014-02-12 07:48:28 UTC
Vulxanis Viceroy
Vicarius Vitae
Khimi Harar
#3 - 2014-02-12 08:40:26 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Hello space friends;

I would like to visit your space and witness the Great Golden Fleet; however, I have been told that I am "KOS" in the region, and that I am not welcome. Having heard nothing but positive things with regards to the fidelity and hospitality of the Providence Holders and their associates, I would like to believe that I have been misinformed. And so it is with all due humility and reverence that I request correspondence on this matter, such that I may secure pilgrimage for myself and some compatriots.

I eagerly await the response of the Holders.

Amarr Victor.


You are indeed KOS. And unfortunately, due to the fact that Goonswarm has had a military presence Providence recently, I highly doubt that you will be well received.

Now, if you and your compatriots only came in shuttles, then perhaps you may find some leeway. However, it should be said that your request sounds rather suspicious in all honesty. I am not a holder of providence, but I am allied with some that are, and I do not think they would likely appreciate this request.

I could be wrong, and if you would like, I can inquire as an intermediary. Although you will likely have to be incredibly specific on what exactly you intend, your route, what ships you will take(anything more than shuttles is suspicious), who you intend to take with you(define a few), etc. If you can do that, I shall inquire of whom you wish to ask on your behalf.

However, if you cannot give them any significant assurance or insurance that your intentions are as you say they are, and possibly put yourself at a disadvantage so that you submit to their rules directly, I highly doubt you will be allowed in.

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Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-02-12 15:16:44 UTC
I'd like to go along with you, Lyris.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#5 - 2014-02-12 16:04:53 UTC
I wanna come too.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-02-12 16:05:12 UTC
You wont be allowed in. Only a fool would trust a Goon. A CFC alliance or corp is a permanent cancer on your enployment history. Only a CFC alliance will accept you in their space

The only way you'll visit Amarrian space is if you turn yourself in.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#7 - 2014-02-12 16:08:01 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
You wont be allowed in. Only a fool would trust a Goon. A CFC alliance or corp is a permanent cancer on your enployment history. Only a CFC alliance will accept you in their space

The only way you'll visit Amarrian space is if you turn yourself in.

Drat. I really wanted to go sight-seeing too...

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-02-12 16:15:05 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
You wont be allowed in. Only a fool would trust a Goon. A CFC alliance or corp is a permanent cancer on your enployment history. Only a CFC alliance will accept you in their space

The only way you'll visit Amarrian space is if you turn yourself in.

Drat. I really wanted to go sight-seeing too...


I dont believe you've affiliated yourself with Goon filth before. You'll be allowed in unless there are other reasons not to let you in. Cant be as bad as being a Goon though!

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Sofia Roseburn
Verdant Inquiries
#9 - 2014-02-12 17:12:40 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
You wont be allowed in. Only a fool would trust a Goon. A CFC alliance or corp is a permanent cancer on your enployment history. Only a CFC alliance will accept you in their space

The only way you'll visit Amarrian space is if you turn yourself in.


The irony here is just...wow.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-02-12 17:43:15 UTC
Sofia Roseburn wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
You wont be allowed in. Only a fool would trust a Goon. A CFC alliance or corp is a permanent cancer on your enployment history. Only a CFC alliance will accept you in their space

The only way you'll visit Amarrian space is if you turn yourself in.


The irony here is just...wow.


Do explain, please.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Sofia Roseburn
Verdant Inquiries
#11 - 2014-02-12 20:34:34 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:


Do explain, please.


It isn't YC 107/108 any more. That corporation you're in? It's on that same list that you're so quick to put the CFC on. Has been for the past 5 or 6 years.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-02-12 22:29:17 UTC
Sofia Roseburn wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:


Do explain, please.


It isn't YC 107/108 any more. That corporation you're in? It's on that same list that you're so quick to put the CFC on. Has been for the past 5 or 6 years.

The situation is very different. My corporation was betrayed by Goonswarm you see. Thats how filthy these people are. Backstabbing those loyal to them is not only allowed, it's encouraged. We werent some bunch of nobodies either, at that time we were considered one of the best combat corporations in the cluster.

The search for a new home was hard, yet we proved to be better than our traitors and so we are on the rise again.

We know how wretched these people are more than anyone. We flew with them and they punished us for it. We have more reason to hate these scumbags than anyone.

Now we must see them destroyed. If they achieve total victory they will wipe each other out. If we win, then we shall put VK to the torch and drag The Mitanni by his hair through the dirt in the streets.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Sofia Roseburn
Verdant Inquiries
#13 - 2014-02-12 22:31:35 UTC
Not really. There's more to EDF's history than their stint with Goonswarm.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-02-12 22:43:09 UTC
Sofia Roseburn wrote:
Not really. There's more to EDF's history than their stint with Goonswarm.


You mean starting off as one of the first dedicated anti-piracy corporations? Or always joining the underdogs in a conflict?

Seriously, in the grand battle of good versus evil, EDF has always sided with good. To explain the case with Goonswarm I must cite an ancient proverb, "you either die a hero, or live to see yourself become the villain."

Goonswarm were originally underdogs trying to survive against the might of Band of Brothers. This was when they were the heroes, and when we joined. Then they became tyrants who seek to control all of Null and heavily influence low and high. This is when they became the villains and when they betrayed us.

Do keep pretending you know more about the history of a corporation than one of it's active members. This is quite funny.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#15 - 2014-02-12 22:51:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
I am sure that the CVA would more than welcome a Goonswarm into Providence. Simply send a large, unescorted fleet of unarmed freighters... say, fifteen or twenty, into their space bearing gifts of PLEX and you can be assured of the kind of honest, safe, and honorable treatment that you have extended to so many others whom you've made deals with over the years.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-02-13 04:17:16 UTC
The musings of various non-Holders aside, I patiently await acknowledgment.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#17 - 2014-02-13 04:47:11 UTC
Don't hold your breath.

Scratch that, hold your breath. It makes them respond faster. I promise!

-Eran
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#18 - 2014-02-13 05:05:11 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Goonswarm were originally underdogs trying to survive against the might of Band of Brothers. This was when they were the heroes, and when we joined. Then they became tyrants who seek to control all of Null and heavily influence low and high. This is when they became the villains and when they betrayed us.


Successful insurgency evolves naturally into status quo. The bees behave in accordance with political history, and the circle must complete (or, in this case, the toroid). Providence seems likely to become an opportunity for Her Majesty's faithful to fight against all odds and suffer a spectacular incineration or two. That region at least has the advantage of being centripetal to the trajectory of history.

I expect things will go less romantically for Feythabolis, Derblinkiesparklespace, and that alley between Jove and State.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#19 - 2014-02-13 07:46:09 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
The musings of various non-Holders aside, I patiently await acknowledgment.


If my understanding of CVA policy is correct, they don't conduct diplomacy in public.

Your best bet would be to contact one of diplomats.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Vulxanis Viceroy
Vicarius Vitae
Khimi Harar
#20 - 2014-02-13 08:05:45 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
The musings of various non-Holders aside, I patiently await acknowledgment.


If my understanding of CVA policy is correct, they don't conduct diplomacy in public.

Your best bet would be to contact one of diplomats.


Yes, that would be best.

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