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Drones Automaticaly Return to Drone Bay on Disconnect!

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2011-11-10 21:41:18 UTC
CCP Soulblighter wrote:
Unforgiven Storm wrote:
CCP Soulblighter wrote:


Any drones in space when you get forced into an emergency warp (this doesn't happen for normal warping) will attempt to return to your drone bay as though you issued the command yourself. If they are too far away, or your ship can align and warp out before they get back, you'll leave them behind.


why not? why not make this a new option for drones, were when I warp out they try to return to my ship before I warp? what is the argument for not to do it also in normal warp outs?


I made the same argument, but there are some razor thin edge cases to consider like "I might have survived if my ECM drones hadn't recalled while I aligned for warp", which kind of necessitates a new drone setting which ultimately ended up being deemed out of scope for the task at hand.

But fear not, I went out of my way to make it easy to revisit easily later. The functionality itself is just a flag to set when warping that, at the moment, only e-warp sets.


How about "drones which are currently not engaging a target will attempt to return before any warp"? This wouldn't interfere with ECM drones, but it would save those forgotten on a gate or in a completed mission.
CCP Kepler
C C P
C C P Alliance
#42 - 2011-11-10 22:54:06 UTC
CCP Soulblighter wrote:
Autonomous Monster wrote:
What what what Shocked

Can we have remote reconnection to drones as well now? Big smile


Who knows what the next Sisi update will hold?

You are such a tease. Big smile

Engineering Manager CCP NA

mkint
#43 - 2011-11-11 01:00:32 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
CCP Soulblighter wrote:
Unforgiven Storm wrote:
CCP Soulblighter wrote:


Any drones in space when you get forced into an emergency warp (this doesn't happen for normal warping) will attempt to return to your drone bay as though you issued the command yourself. If they are too far away, or your ship can align and warp out before they get back, you'll leave them behind.


why not? why not make this a new option for drones, were when I warp out they try to return to my ship before I warp? what is the argument for not to do it also in normal warp outs?


I made the same argument, but there are some razor thin edge cases to consider like "I might have survived if my ECM drones hadn't recalled while I aligned for warp", which kind of necessitates a new drone setting which ultimately ended up being deemed out of scope for the task at hand.

But fear not, I went out of my way to make it easy to revisit easily later. The functionality itself is just a flag to set when warping that, at the moment, only e-warp sets.


How about "drones which are currently not engaging a target will attempt to return before any warp"? This wouldn't interfere with ECM drones, but it would save those forgotten on a gate or in a completed mission.

Recall on disconnect = cool
recall because the owner is vapid and lazy and needs an easy mode to even get out of bed in the morning = bad

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2011-11-11 01:29:02 UTC
mkint wrote:

Recall on disconnect = cool
recall because the owner is vapid and lazy and needs an easy mode to even get out of bed in the morning = bad


This. This feature is great as it is right now. There is no need to make them auto return on any warp or teleport to your bay or anything.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#45 - 2011-11-11 01:34:59 UTC
mkint wrote:

Recall on disconnect = cool
recall because the owner is vapid and lazy and needs an easy mode to even get out of bed in the morning = bad


And how would you advice CCP on detecting if a random disconnection is due to a technical or biological issue?

The server doesn't have any way to know if I lost my connection due to third party issue, or if I disconnected my TP.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2011-11-11 01:52:11 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
mkint wrote:

Recall on disconnect = cool
recall because the owner is vapid and lazy and needs an easy mode to even get out of bed in the morning = bad


And how would you advice CCP on detecting if a random disconnection is due to a technical or biological issue?

The server doesn't have any way to know if I lost my connection due to third party issue, or if I disconnected my TP.


I really don't think it matters. If you're disconnecting intentionally to call your drones in then you're on a higher tier of elite then everyone else. Since relogging is sort of a hassle i don't see alot of people doing it.
GeoffWICE
Grey Nomads
#47 - 2011-11-11 02:08:23 UTC
CCP Soulblighter wrote:
Unforgiven Storm wrote:
CCP Soulblighter wrote:


Any drones in space when you get forced into an emergency warp (this doesn't happen for normal warping) will attempt to return to your drone bay as though you issued the command yourself. If they are too far away, or your ship can align and warp out before they get back, you'll leave them behind.


why not? why not make this a new option for drones, were when I warp out they try to return to my ship before I warp? what is the argument for not to do it also in normal warp outs?


I made the same argument, but there are some razor thin edge cases to consider like "I might have survived if my ECM drones hadn't recalled while I aligned for warp", which kind of necessitates a new drone setting which ultimately ended up being deemed out of scope for the task at hand.

But fear not, I went out of my way to make it easy to revisit easily later. The functionality itself is just a flag to set when warping that, at the moment, only e-warp sets.


easy enough that we could have an option on the drone menu to turn it on and off our selves?
mkint
#48 - 2011-11-11 08:49:07 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
mkint wrote:

Recall on disconnect = cool
recall because the owner is vapid and lazy and needs an easy mode to even get out of bed in the morning = bad


And how would you advice CCP on detecting if a random disconnection is due to a technical or biological issue?

The server doesn't have any way to know if I lost my connection due to third party issue, or if I disconnected my TP.

The question isn't between different kinds of disconnect.

What they are proposing is "I'm too lazy or vapid to recall my drones before docking because my brain is melted from too many mining lasers so I must be babysat and have them automatically try to return to my drone bay."

Still, I vote no. Just because a feature can be easily added, doesn't mean it should be.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Autonomous Monster
Paradox Interstellar
#49 - 2011-11-11 14:27:28 UTC
mkint wrote:
The question isn't between different kinds of disconnect.

What they are proposing is "I'm too lazy or vapid to recall my drones before docking because my brain is melted from too many mining lasers so I must be babysat and have them automatically try to return to my drone bay."

Still, I vote no. Just because a feature can be easily added, doesn't mean it should be.


What exactly do we lose, other than pointless micro?
mkint
#50 - 2011-11-11 18:16:42 UTC
Autonomous Monster wrote:
mkint wrote:
The question isn't between different kinds of disconnect.

What they are proposing is "I'm too lazy or vapid to recall my drones before docking because my brain is melted from too many mining lasers so I must be babysat and have them automatically try to return to my drone bay."

Still, I vote no. Just because a feature can be easily added, doesn't mean it should be.


What exactly do we lose, other than pointless micro?

Consequences for not taking care of your stuff.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Zizeria
Systems Overwatch
#51 - 2011-11-11 23:42:29 UTC
I would still like to see a "reconnect to lost drones" key. If it can be done with probes 5-10-whatever AU away why not with disconnected drones within control range?

Not to sound ungrateful, this change is good too.

-Ziz
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
#52 - 2011-11-14 08:55:32 UTC
Hungry Eyes wrote:
there is absolutely no rational argument for not allowing drones to teleport into their drone bay on specialized drone boats when you initiate warp. i mean, do turrets and missile launchers get left behind when u warp? lol. allowing this would not break balance in any way. it would just make drone boats more viable in roaming gangs.


You want magical teleporting drones and your using the world rational? The reasons that guns aren't lost when you warp is because they are attached to your ship.

I mean... lol

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Toramii
Le Moulin Rouge
#53 - 2011-11-14 11:05:52 UTC
One thing I do find annoying is when a fleet commander issues fleet warp with little (or no) notice and your drones are 'out there' doing their thing Oops
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