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Eve University Offensive Combat Operations in Placid Region

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#81 - 2014-02-14 00:57:24 UTC
/Chuckles

Theres is no "conundrum".

There are no complex solutions required.

The Federal forces simply need to suck it up, or rather - harden up, and realise that low-security space is not just a factional warzone it is a universal warzone.

For the love of Bob just get on with it and stop trying to make friends in a firefight. This is reaching rather embarrassing levels.

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#82 - 2014-02-14 01:35:15 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
/Chuckles

Theres is no "conundrum".

There are no complex solutions required.

The Federal forces simply need to suck it up, or rather - harden up, and realise that low-security space is not just a factional warzone it is a universal warzone.

For the love of Bob just get on with it and stop trying to make friends in a firefight. This is reaching rather embarrassing levels.

We haven't passed that yet?

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Erica Dusette
Division 13
#83 - 2014-02-14 01:40:28 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
/Chuckles

Theres is no "conundrum".

There are no complex solutions required.

The Federal forces simply need to suck it up, or rather - harden up, and realise that low-security space is not just a factional warzone it is a universal warzone.

For the love of Bob just get on with it and stop trying to make friends in a firefight. This is reaching rather embarrassing levels.

We haven't passed that yet?

Possibly Ms Osyn. For me it was merely entertaining, but now it's becoming painful even from an observer's perspective.

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

Part-Time Wormhole Pirate Full-Time Supermodel

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Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#84 - 2014-02-14 01:46:34 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
/Chuckles

Theres is no "conundrum".

There are no complex solutions required.

The Federal forces simply need to suck it up, or rather - harden up, and realise that low-security space is not just a factional warzone it is a universal warzone.

For the love of Bob just get on with it and stop trying to make friends in a firefight. This is reaching rather embarrassing levels.

We haven't passed that yet?

Possibly Ms Osyn. For me it was merely entertaining, but now it's becoming painful even from an observer's perspective.

It is getting to be a bit past trite, isn't it?

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#85 - 2014-02-14 02:00:37 UTC
Saya Ishikari wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
/Chuckles

Theres is no "conundrum".

There are no complex solutions required.

The Federal forces simply need to suck it up, or rather - harden up, and realise that low-security space is not just a factional warzone it is a universal warzone.

For the love of Bob just get on with it and stop trying to make friends in a firefight. This is reaching rather embarrassing levels.

We haven't passed that yet?

Possibly Ms Osyn. For me it was merely entertaining, but now it's becoming painful even from an observer's perspective.

It is getting to be a bit past trite, isn't it?

Seems like the argument is stuck in a roundabout. I kinda want to shoot all of them now.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#86 - 2014-02-14 02:51:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Eran Mintor
Nobody seems to have mentioned how strange this notion of protecting FDU mercenaries is. Need I remind everyone that all four militias, including the FDU, are filled with mercenaries who hold no loyalty, and are just as likely to flip sides for profit when it suits them? The best advice to give those who actually hold loyalties to their respective empires is to join a real corporation - one which is trusted and can benefit from standings and diplomatic processes.

The new angle that Mr. Soter is taking is ridiculous, and if I didn't know him better then I would suggest it might be a joke.

-Eran
Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#87 - 2014-02-14 02:54:20 UTC
I know a number of honest FDU pilots personally, who do not want to take sides in corporate politics. That is entirely their right. When people regard the non-aligned capsuleers interests as 'irrelevant' and 'rediculous' (sic), it becomes one of the primary reasons these pilots don't join corporations in the first place.

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#88 - 2014-02-14 03:02:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Eran Mintor
So what is stopping these pilots from seeking individual standings? Last I checked, individuals can have positive standings with corporations and alliances. Or they can form an organization that only houses them.

Excuses, excuses.

-Eran

Edit: Also, I like how you point out my spelling of the word ridiculous, as if that's relevant or helps your argument, despite the fact I edited/fixed it before your response. Generally, when someone has no real retort they begin to attack grammar, spelling, and character. Keep it up, cowboy.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#89 - 2014-02-14 03:07:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Erica Dusette
Julianus Soter wrote:
honest FDU pilots

Oh my!! That's it!!

Hold that pose Mr Soter!! When you said that with a forced look of sincerity the light played perfectly off your chiseled features.

*takes a screenshot on her neocom*

You're an undiscovered talent sir. Those features, that acting, you're sitting on an ISK tree and you didnt even know it.

I'll put the word out via my State agent. Perhaps we can do a shoot together sometime. Scantily clad, a chain and collar around that muscular neck of yours, posed over a chair perhaps with me clenching the leash tightly, dressed in leathers with the heel of my boot pressed hard against the back of your head. Together sir we can end this conflict peacefully with the annihilation of Federal pilot morale whilst pocketing a small fortune courtesy of the State's generous coffers.

I do hope you find a moment amidst this terrible conundrum to ponder the concept.

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2014-02-14 03:08:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Fredfredbug4
It's a mixed bag here. A good chunk of FDU pilots are not merely mercenaries and privateers and another chunk of them are exactly those things.

Of course, does EVE-U offer standings for individual capsuleers? In which case, pilots who would wish not to be attacked, in other words, loyal FDU pilots, then they can apply for a blue standing. Anyone that is just in it for the killing and money won't go for blue standings.

I can understand your sympathy towards the FDU, however I cannot understand why you would be willing to escalate a misunderstanding to a full conflict over it.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#91 - 2014-02-14 03:12:24 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
It's a mixed bag here. A good chunk of FDU pilots are not merely mercenaries and privateers and another chunk of them are exactly those things.

Of course, does EVE-U offer standings for individual capsuleers? In which case, pilots who would wish not to be attacked, in other words, loyal FDU pilots, then they can apply for a blue standing. Anyone that is just in it for the killing and money won't go for blue standings.

I can understand your sympathy towards the FDU, however I cannot understand why you would be willing to escalate a misunderstanding to a full conflict over it.


My wager is that none of them tried or we would've heard about it.

Laziness is not a good excuse.

-Eran
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#92 - 2014-02-14 03:26:38 UTC
understanding, sympathy, honesty, charity, forgiveness, kindness, friendship. These are not words to fling around low/null, unless you were looking for an express trip back to your cloning facility... I can't say begging for them on the IGS forums is going to get you anywhere either.

Can you guys just war-dec and get it over with?

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Erica Dusette
Division 13
#93 - 2014-02-14 03:30:33 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
understanding, sympathy, honesty, charity, forgiveness, kindness, friendship. These are not words to fling around low/null, unless you were looking for an express trip back to your cloning facility... I can't say begging for them on the IGS forums is going to get you anywhere either.

Can you guys just war-dec and get it over with?

I empathize totally, but still think my idea is better, and incidentally more appropriate.

/Frown

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

Part-Time Wormhole Pirate Full-Time Supermodel

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Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#94 - 2014-02-14 03:31:18 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
understanding, sympathy, honesty, charity, forgiveness, kindness, friendship. These are not words to fling around low/null, unless you were looking for an express trip back to your cloning facility... I can't say begging for them on the IGS forums is going to get you anywhere either.

Can you guys just war-dec and get it over with?

Translation; Kiss and make up! You know you want to!

Sorry, Osyn, it had to be said. Big smile

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#95 - 2014-02-14 04:48:39 UTC
Saya Ishikari wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
understanding, sympathy, honesty, charity, forgiveness, kindness, friendship. These are not words to fling around low/null, unless you were looking for an express trip back to your cloning facility... I can't say begging for them on the IGS forums is going to get you anywhere either.

Can you guys just war-dec and get it over with?

Translation; Kiss and make up! You know you want to!

Sorry, Osyn, it had to be said. Big smile

I suppose kissing would work as well... wouldn't be as entertaining. Unless people start getting naked.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Bryen Verrisai
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2014-02-14 06:46:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Bryen Verrisai
This is why I avoid the CEWPA zones; too much drama. And as unsavory as I find the unending pendulum war and the people who fight it, I personally would rather not put the lives of fellow Federation members at risk (though I won't criticize other students and ILN members choose to do so in the course of their own training).

Gosakumori Noh wrote:
I do not imagine that getting blown up troubles the students involved, given that it is the likely (and quite possibly intended) outcome.

It is very much encouraged, in fact.

I can't speak for the University as a whole, but many of the ships myself and others have been provided by the Uni ship reimbursement system have been crewed by experienced baseliners who have apparently turned escaping a doomed vessel into an artform.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#97 - 2014-02-14 10:43:14 UTC
Bairfhionn Isu wrote:

Be aware that this is just a test run. We do not want to become pirates. We do not want to camp all the star gates in Low Sec. We will not take ransoms or take part in any war.

You don't become pirates for destroying gallentes, you are doing the whole Humanity a service.
This is not just a fight between Caldari and Gallente. This is the fight of sentient humanity against gallentean brainwashing and submission. This is the fight for all races and bloodlines to live their own way without degrading gallentean influence. By our own rules, and according to our own traditions, not gallentean.

And it is very easy to legalize this fight for humanity, if structures like CONCORD will become unhappy, though, just with joining the conflict on Caldari side.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#98 - 2014-02-14 10:58:50 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

People of Placid deserve to live as humans, in properly organized societies, and to live in prosperity according to their merits, and not being exploited by gallenteans bureaucracy and propaganda.


Nor by the Caldari bureaucracy and propaganda - same fedo fecal matter, different package.

Placid rightfully belongs to the Intaki Syndicate, but I suppose you both State and Federal sycophants can underline them as constellations of interest all you want - just don't forget neither of your navies in that pointless little proxy war control the gates of the area - the Guardian Angels do.

I never seen any Intaki Syndicate fighting for it, only frogs.
It belonged to gallenteans, who oppressed Intaki since they joined the Federation, they limited their colonization rights and blablabla.
And since the start of the war, Gallenteans simply 'traded' this area with all indigeous population, including Intaki, to try to get our Black Rise.
As of this, Placid becomes zone of interests of the State.
I don't know what will happen after the war with Intakis or their pity Syndicate, that didn't dare to fight federal scum by itself. Maybe they would join the State, maybe not. But our current goal is get rid of all federal and gallentean influence from this region.

Call it a cleaning, if you wish.

As for "propaganda" and controlling Intaki themselves - you need to talk to Ishukone. It will be their job, after we cleanse all gallentean filth from the region.

Oh, and about "controlling" guardian angels - tell how good they control the area to their corpses inside wrecks that I accidentally did, simply passing through.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#99 - 2014-02-14 14:53:07 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Oh, and about "controlling" guardian angels - tell how good they control the area to their corpses inside wrecks that I accidentally did, simply passing through.

Kimmy: causing death and bloodshed merely by passing through a gate. Fear her for she is the Goddess of death.Roll

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#100 - 2014-02-14 22:35:50 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Leopold Caine wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

People of Placid deserve to live as humans, in properly organized societies, and to live in prosperity according to their merits, and not being exploited by gallenteans bureaucracy and propaganda.


Nor by the Caldari bureaucracy and propaganda - same fedo fecal matter, different package.

Placid rightfully belongs to the Intaki Syndicate, but I suppose you both State and Federal sycophants can underline them as constellations of interest all you want - just don't forget neither of your navies in that pointless little proxy war control the gates of the area - the Guardian Angels do.

I never seen any Intaki Syndicate fighting for it, only frogs.
It belonged to gallenteans, who oppressed Intaki since they joined the Federation, they limited their colonization rights and blablabla.
And since the start of the war, Gallenteans simply 'traded' this area with all indigeous population, including Intaki, to try to get our Black Rise.
As of this, Placid becomes zone of interests of the State.
I don't know what will happen after the war with Intakis or their pity Syndicate, that didn't dare to fight federal scum by itself. Maybe they would join the State, maybe not. But our current goal is get rid of all federal and gallentean influence from this region.

Call it a cleaning, if you wish.

As for "propaganda" and controlling Intaki themselves - you need to talk to Ishukone. It will be their job, after we cleanse all gallentean filth from the region.

Oh, and about "controlling" guardian angels - tell how good they control the area to their corpses inside wrecks that I accidentally did, simply passing through.


You do realize that if the Intaki wanted to be "liberated" they've had at least a dozen chances right?

Many Caldari seem to have the attitude that they know exactly what another group of people want when they really don't. The hilariously ironic thing is that this makes them quite Gallentean if I do say so myself.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!