EVE New Citizens Q&A

Thank you for the info I will get to reading once I get off work.




This is very interesting, since usually the goal in games is to get the best gear to pwn face... but if I do the same in EVE I will be a target for everyone haha which makes it very interesting. I will have to plan very carefully then before I venture out what things I need that are nice to get X job done but what POS ship can throw them in to get me there lol. Not sure if that will work but is something to think about. Thanks


Man a lot to take in and a lot I'm going to have to read up on. Another question that comes to mind now if I do go the route of exploration and playing cat and mouse with threats amongst the stars ... is this all I should do or can one specialize in a few different careers? or with me doing more then one thing will this in the long run hinder me with the amount of skills I would need to do so and the time it will take me to learn all the skills that I would need to be proficient in multiple careers?


Thank you all for the feed back

Well I have come to believe that everything in EVE is going to take me awhile to get anything done. Having friends who talk about EVE when they are playing other games (Sayeth TSW hi if you are out there ) that some skills to pilot some ships will take you about a year to train. Which I think is sort of nice since most other games everyone is in such a rush to get everything done and it's always go go go. Would be nice to have a game where I can play at my own pace and if I'm not playing I am still training skills.

I am also still new enough that most of the skills that I have trained (to 3 so far) I'm sure will come in handy and once I have done all of the tutorials I might know what I plan on doing and I'm sure I will be doing a lot more research before I dedicate too much time into any of them.

Do NOT listen to this person.

Likely an alt of someone who got kicked out of null and is butthurt about it.

And even if not, it's still the most terrible advice every seen on this forum.

Lots of great posts, I'd just add that the OP's outlook seems fine to me on this in that they are willing to accept the occasional pirate attack and such as just part of the game. That's a great way to look at it and as long as you're happy with that you'll be fine doing primarily PvE.

Just think of us PvP oriented folk as (hopefully more dangerous) surprise NPCs that are happy to chat after they attack you, if you like :)

There's a ton of people playing a nearly pure PvE game (with occasional PvP spice thrown in) in all sec status space, even WH. You'll be fine. Just remember that it's an unsharded MMO and other players will be doing their thing too, and in EVE, nearly anything is legal. You'll find lots of advice on how to avoid people like me.

Definitely get the hell out of dodge first by warping to something. You can then open your combat log after you are safe and start a convo with your attacker from there.

I'm only weeks old in Eve and contrary to Arc'Los, I've only ever pve'd.

I joined Eve Uni after finishing the tutorials and I've developed a plan for how I wish to proceed. Ultimately, I'd like to progress into pvp, but I'm happy to stay in pve until my skills are at a level where I could feel comfortable to fly in a pvp fleet.

As most people of written, having a goal provides you with direction in a very vast sandbox. This can be the hardest thing you'll decide to do, but try to start out with a small goal. By way of example, my first goal was to have enough core and specialised skills to level IV to operate a tackler frigate. I pve (little trading, mining and mission running ) until the skills are leveled.

Eve Uni is a good place to start as well as they have a number of tutorials about different elements of the game. I'm sure other corps offer similar things, but my experience to date is limited to E-Uni.

Good luck with whatever you choose.

ya.. i totally agree.. learning abit of pvp is better than knowing nothing about PvP ..
( like when you're out in the freeway driving..you know your car. and what it can do.. you may have driven other cars and know what those cars can do... same goes for eve.. you know the ship from enuff practice.. you'll know how best to use it to do the job you need it for )
in your cat and mouse games.. you will be caught ! some days , more than a few times.. but you'll get better at it. you can always ask later if they wiling to tell you how they caught you.. how to not get caught the same way again.

as for the ships.. if you find a good corp.. there are ship reimbursement plans.
at least more than half the people who have blown up my ships in pvp have offered me more ships in return. or at least give me back the loot from the wreck.. which can be 50% of the modules/ammo i had in it.
( this does not happen everywhere.. so don't expect it ! )
exploration can really do well to fund your eve life tho..
combat sites DED 4 in hi sec, random high end loot in data & relic sites.
then later, ( be it a day or a month.. a year from now ) you can try practicing for real.. get your blood pumping.. hands shaking as you try to navigate thru deceptively quiet low/null sec space doing exploration. but try it in a rookie ship ! you get those for free every time you dock into a station in your pod

This is very important advice. I've backstabbed someone before just because they mentioned in chat that they were using two of those Pith A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Fields, and hearing that was enough for me to decide to manipulate them into a position where I could attack them legally, blow up their ship and on average get one of those modules for myself. (Neither of them actually dropped but at least I got a shiny killmail).

Edit to add in: That's actually where the corp Mission BLITZ originated from - I suggested to my new 'friend' that we form a corp together. Corpmates can kill each other in highsec without CONCORD caring. I liked the irony so much that I remain CEO of this corp today, and will happily recruit any blinged mission runner I encounter for the same reason.



OP: I began EVE somewhat like you, believing I'd progress up from level 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 to 5 missions solo, and maybe look at incursions too, building up better and better spaceships while mostly avoiding other players until the time felt right.

If I'd stayed with that approach, I would have quit in boredom after 3-4 months, having never made it to the level 5 missions or incursions.

What changed the game for me was deciding to try wormhole sites, fitting out a Myrmidron I'd outgrown and thinking 'if I lose this, it's no big deal' and proceeding to run PVE content in dangerous space. Predictably I lost my ship after three sites, but I had so much more fun that I became hooked on EVE. The experience taught me to think of ships as disposable tools, and even now that I have perhaps twenty billion ISK in assets, I still never fly ships or fits worth over about 300m.

Now I'm the sort of person you might find scanning down your highsec mission, blowing up your Mobile Tractor Unit, shooting triggers you didn't want to see shot, and goading you into attacking me.


For what it's worth, even mission running when you do not interact with other players is a form of market PVP. If you loot, you are actively hurting other players that are selling the same loot drops by lowering prices. If you salvage, you are actively lowering prices of salvage. If you do neither and just blitz missions for bounties and LP, you are lowering the prices on those LP items, and increasing the ISK in the overall game economy, which leads to increased ISK prices for everything.

Totally agree with this, PvP isn't confined to the fun of making other peoples space ships explode, it encompasses pretty much everything you can do in Eve. The market is 99.99% player driven, everything is either being bought or sold by another player, it's all been mined, manufactured, looted or received as a mission reward, by another player; with the exception of the increasingly rare NPC orders, which are mostly skills these days.

TL;DR Everything is PvP, that's all the things.

Effect of long high sec missioning career is that in the end you will want to just fly into low or null and die just to experience that you are still alive.