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Bringing Jita to Star Citizen

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Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#81 - 2014-02-12 00:16:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Hesod Adee
Arkady Vachon wrote:
Love it how these SC people think there will be no way no how that someone will be able to AFK mine in their game, if it ever comes out.

Botters will always figure out a way to bot, its what they do. Thinking otherwise is delusional.

There is a difference between botters and AFKers. Botters are using out of game tools to automate their in game activity. AFKers are using in-game tools to automate their in-game activity.

Not much of a different though.

If SC does have a mining system that prevents AFK mining, then it becomes a matter of convincing CCP to copy it to end AFK mining in Eve. Unless it's something silly like 'mining' in Freelancer.

DaReaper wrote:
Real physics and things sounds like an uber lag fest waititng to happen.

Are they going with a newtonian or relativistic model ?
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#82 - 2014-02-12 00:23:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Little Dragon Khamez
Hesod Adee wrote:
Arkady Vachon wrote:
Love it how these SC people think there will be no way no how that someone will be able to AFK mine in their game, if it ever comes out.

Botters will always figure out a way to bot, its what they do. Thinking otherwise is delusional.

There is a difference between botters and AFKers. Botters are using out of game tools to automate their in game activity. AFKers are using in-game tools to automate their in-game activity.

Not much of a different though.

If SC does have a mining system that prevents AFK mining, then it becomes a matter of convincing CCP to copy it to end AFK mining in Eve. Unless it's something silly like 'mining' in Freelancer.

DaReaper wrote:
Real physics and things sounds like an uber lag fest waititng to happen.

Are they going with a newtonian or relativistic model ?


I don't remember mining in freelancer could you really do that? I did the plot line and joined a couple of servers on the ms global server but had to give up when I upgraded my pc as Windows vista couldn't see the global server. That's why I joined eve.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#83 - 2014-02-12 00:27:07 UTC
Hesod Adee wrote:
Arkady Vachon wrote:
Love it how these SC people think there will be no way no how that someone will be able to AFK mine in their game, if it ever comes out.

Botters will always figure out a way to bot, its what they do. Thinking otherwise is delusional.

There is a difference between botters and AFKers. Botters are using out of game tools to automate their in game activity. AFKers are using in-game tools to automate their in-game activity.

Not much of a different though.

If SC does have a mining system that prevents AFK mining, then it becomes a matter of convincing CCP to copy it to end AFK mining in Eve. Unless it's something silly like 'mining' in Freelancer.

DaReaper wrote:
Real physics and things sounds like an uber lag fest waititng to happen.

Are they going with a newtonian or relativistic model ?


I'm not sure, all I ready was "your ships will have real physics and the server will be doing minute calculations to your position, like little thrusters will be going off to keep you stable..." All I hear is "a lot of ships together = lag"

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#84 - 2014-02-12 00:30:13 UTC
Sorry don't mean to hijack, two more issues I having... gods the more I learn about SC the more I just wanna laugh. (holy hell, 10 years of eve has jaded me to other games...)

1) "We will just pay pirates to defend us.." uh what? Pirates would want to kill you... hence the word 'pirate'. Also with the stupid slider, a pirate prolly would not see someone mining with there slider set 0 pvp...

2) "Oh we will just set a high bounty and that will take care of it..." I seriously want to laugh. Not that eve's bounty system is perfect, or really strong... ok it still has issues, but that is seriously just funny.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#85 - 2014-02-12 00:30:52 UTC
You can only have one forum character but unlimited in-game characters, so I guess I won't be offering ship trading services and honest investment funds on the forums under different characters.

But they seem to completely miss the fact that we can use our Eve-trained out of the box thinking to handle any game mechanic or rule. For instance, what's to stop our pirate corps from ganking ships and allowing our high sec alts scoop the loot? Even if scooping loot raises a suspect flag, we can just use pirate characters to scoop, then immediately jetcan to an alt or at a nearby station.

I wasn't going to say it publicly, but I would very much like to organize such fun activities. I totally agree we should gate camp them into highsec with pirates and haul the loot with our honourable citizens, perhaps in a convoy lol

It doesn't matter so much who runs everything- perhaps just an alliance or coalition of sorts, but guys we have got to get a bunch of Eve guys together to share the joys of the sandbox with millions of SC players in some sort of organized fashion.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#86 - 2014-02-12 00:35:54 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
You can only have one forum character but unlimited in-game characters, so I guess I won't be offering ship trading services and honest investment funds on the forums under different characters.

But they seem to completely miss the fact that we can use our Eve-trained out of the box thinking to handle any game mechanic or rule. For instance, what's to stop our pirate corps from ganking ships and allowing our high sec alts scoop the loot? Even if scooping loot raises a suspect flag, we can just use pirate characters to scoop, then immediately jetcan to an alt or at a nearby station.

I wasn't going to say it publicly, but I would very much like to organize such fun activities. I totally agree we should gate camp them into highsec with pirates and haul the loot with our honourable citizens, perhaps in a convoy lol

It doesn't matter so much who runs everything- perhaps just an alliance or coalition of sorts, but guys we have got to get a bunch of Eve guys together to share the joys of the sandbox with millions of SC players in some sort of organized fashion.


It seems to me that the community over in sc are just too happy clappy and care bearing for their own good, they've brought this on themselves. We will teach them to understand risk and htfu. We'd be doing them a public service and eventually they will thank us.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#87 - 2014-02-12 00:41:21 UTC
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Even the forums are P2W!

Now that's an idea! The Eve-O forums should charge an Aurum CSPA charge to post! Brb, pitching it to CCP!


I feel the need to let you know that trolling here is prohibited.. just kidding lol

Do let us know your SC name so we can watch your posts there with buckets of popcorn ready.

Sorry, but no. I'm supposed to stay completely anonymous, and it would be bad form to have someone who officially works for CCP Games comment on the Star Citizen forums, wouldn't it? Also, who's to say I even have an account there? P

Anyway, carry on.


I suspect we will run into a character named DSI FackOfLaith. Brilliant disguise!
Colonel Selene
Kesukka
#88 - 2014-02-12 00:42:49 UTC
haha,

Thank God that Eve players are going to infiltrate SC to hopefully make it a bit more interesting as we always do. Lets show them how to make the game fun.

Grrr.

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#89 - 2014-02-12 00:43:18 UTC
I guess i'll spend some time researching SC.. maybe I can think of other ways to torcher the SC bears... crap and i'm a carebear in eve... oh well, as I said, eve has corrupted me.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#90 - 2014-02-12 00:54:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Hesod Adee
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
I don't remember mining in freelancer could you really do that? I did the plot line and joined a couple of servers on the ms global server but had to give up when I upgraded my pc as Windows vista couldn't see the global server. That's why I joined eve.

'Mining' in Freelancer consisted of flying through an area that had tiny targets (rocks, scrap metal, etc), shooting them once, then scooping what they dropped. If they dropped anything.

Not something I'd call mining.

Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
It seems to me that the community over in sc are just too happy clappy and care bearing for their own good, they've brought this on themselves. We will teach them to understand risk and htfu. We'd be doing them a public service and eventually they will thank us.

Even if the developers want to create a carebear game, you're still doing everyone a favour by showing off every way the mechanics work in your favour at launch, you make the issue so public that the devs have to either kill those mechanics and let everyone know it's a carebear game, or let the mechanics stand and let everyone know it isn't a carebear game.

Either way, you are forcing the devs to show the truth through their actions so that people who don't like the direction the devs choose won't waste their money on SC.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#91 - 2014-02-12 01:07:09 UTC
By the way guys, they get really mad when we use Eve terminology. Can someone go ahead and make a Star Citizen wiki, but instead of the terms they want us to use, make those secondary terms to Eve's. For example, high sec, tackling, awox, etc.

I'd love if new players start using phrases such as "haha, that ganker got Concorded," with SC bitterbackervets raging over the terminology that gets accepted by the broad playerbase.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Rain6638
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#92 - 2014-02-12 01:19:16 UTC
hahahahaha

+1 for attacking identity

i would, but i know nothing about SC

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Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#93 - 2014-02-12 01:26:36 UTC
Lol...


Nice Thread ^_^

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.

Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#94 - 2014-02-12 01:40:23 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
By the way guys, they get really mad when we use Eve terminology. Can someone go ahead and make a Star Citizen wiki, but instead of the terms they want us to use, make those secondary terms to Eve's. For example, high sec, tackling, awox, etc.

I'd love if new players start using phrases such as "haha, that ganker got Concorded," with SC bitterbackervets raging over the terminology that gets accepted by the broad playerbase.


What about replacing the terms in the official wiki ?
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#95 - 2014-02-12 01:47:15 UTC
haha bitterbackervets. I like that.

I want those early backers to complain that most. Twisted

Or do they already complain alot?
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#96 - 2014-02-12 02:14:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Erotica 1
My first JITA corporation recuit application has been accepted!

Welcome to Jita, Unsuccessful At Everything!

The door is open to all Eve players. Keep in mind we are a, um, peaceful trading corporation...

*edit* thinking about giving him all sorts of roles and titles. It could be the best decision ever, or the beginning of the first SC safari.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Rain6638
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#97 - 2014-02-12 02:41:30 UTC
this makes me want to trash a PLEX for the good of EVE.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#98 - 2014-02-12 04:08:31 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
My first JITA corporation recuit application has been accepted!

Welcome to Jita, Unsuccessful At Everything!

The door is open to all Eve players. Keep in mind we are a, um, peaceful trading corporation...

*edit* thinking about giving him all sorts of roles and titles. It could be the best decision ever, or the beginning of the first SC safari.


o7

I know I always say "don't do Jita", but in this case, do Jita! Do the ******* hell out of it.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#99 - 2014-02-12 05:14:16 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
My first JITA corporation recuit application has been accepted!

Welcome to Jita, Unsuccessful At Everything!

The door is open to all Eve players. Keep in mind we are a, um, peaceful trading corporation...

*edit* thinking about giving him all sorts of roles and titles. It could be the best decision ever, or the beginning of the first SC safari.


o7

I know I always say "don't do Jita", but in this case, do Jita! Do the ******* hell out of it.



A lovely quote from my very first corp director!

We may have to put that in the corporate literature. All Eve players are welcome to join upon confirming within Eve that it is indeed their character. I believe, together, we can make all the SC pubbies join a sister renter corp!

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#100 - 2014-02-12 05:44:51 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
I guess i'll spend some time researching SC.. maybe I can think of other ways to torcher the SC bears... crap and i'm a carebear in eve... oh well, as I said, eve has corrupted me.


Even some of the EVE bears have picked up how to survive in a dangerous universe and think creatively. If there is one thing that this playerbase does it is that - think creatively, and often, diabolically.

If their economy is run by players then an EVE player will have control of it before a year is out.


Nothing Personal - Just Business...

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