EVE General Discussion

Scamming has to be part of EVE, for reasons probably explained already.

But I do think that certain scames harm EVE a lot and that CCP should put a stop to it.

Like Corp recruiting scams. This pretty much makes the new recruiting tool pointless for anything but high sec. Because so much of EVE is dependent on being in a good corp this pretty much undermines the game for many new players.

The contract scams and the links in the high traffic area chats make the game feel like a web site with 20 popups. I feel like I need to update my anti virus software before I go to Jita and wash my hands after. The stuff going on there is no-class trash that only serves to make the game feel trashy.

Anybody who falls for a scam in Jita, "Invests" in a corp or "Is recruited by" Goonswarm, deserves to lose everything and die a horrible death

It is not about falling for them, it is the trashy impression they give of the game.

Put aside your macho self serving attitude and keep in mind this game has to compete in the real world for paying customers, if it can't it will close.

I'd love to see the new player retention numbers, I'll bet it is really bad.

New players in this game are basically a commodity that vets feed on.

Reading comprehension is your friend.

I appreciate the fact that you "like" a lot of my posts, but I do not appreciate the insinuation that Goonswarm is in some way dishonourable or that it is impossible to legitimately join us. Nothing could be further from the truth. Scamming is a very vocal minority among the membership of Goonswarm, because to be quite honest it is an effort-intensive pastime that often does not pay off nearly as well as the celebrated successes would lead one to believe; moreover, recruitment while often a source of scamming marks for unscrupulous people in any sizable entity is also something that we take fairly seriously in Goonfleet and to my knowledge always have. My account here on EVE Online predates my account on Something Awful by a couple of years, and I had no trouble at all joining; there is a random guy who sings songs on YouTube who doesn't even have a Something Awful account who we are actually trying to convince to join Goonswarm just because he'd be amusing to have on Mumble. There are many different examples that I can point to of legitimate recruitment, and all of them share a common theme: those persons were intelligent enough to identify and follow the appropriate procedure for joining the corporation. That procedure is not at all difficult to find, nor is it difficult to follow; yet, there are dozens or perhaps hundreds of people who simply can't figure it out even when it's lain before them in plain English, and they are an endless source of amusement.

I never said it was in any way the norm, and I can appreciate your attempt to repair your corp/alliance's irrepairable reputation, but I honestly laughed-out loud at the recruitment scams

Like I completely neglected to say, idgaf.

Scamming is is essentially the embodiment of the game, I'm not being macho, it's just the truth

It draws some, but not as many as being carebear [ see WoW ].

Quality > Quantity
EVE-style > WoW-style

I just hope CCP doesn't decide to change. Not a whole lotta games out there that allow you to **** with people.

An I dont like whiny brats coming into the game going "WAAAAAH I DINT LIKE THIS MECHANIC CCP SAVE MEEE!!!!"

God, no.

EVE is fine the way it is. But being the way it is does have consequences, the question is. Is CCP content with those consequences (ie lack of mega sub numbers)?



I do hope you realize that I'm not against scamming. I simple state it's both helpful (awesomeness) and harmful (lack of subs; game seen as "harsh").