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Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-02-20 15:50:18 UTC
Tauranon wrote:
I use a dominix to rat. It shoots up to 26m isk/tick or ~75m/hr. It would take 3 or 4 hours to pay off the fit. I have never lost a spaceship to anomoly rats, and its likely that I'd only ever lose a spaceship in an anomoly because I fell asleep or another player killed me (which is pretty likely if I fall asleep anyway in null).


Where does it shoots up 26m isk/tick or ~75m/hr?

Is it in null Cosmic Anomalies?
If so, what difficulty level are they?
What is the minimum difficulty level?
What about the maximum difficulty level?

If not:
- is it in FW? FW Plexing?
- or is it in Incursions?


Either way, due to the accrued research cost to get any relevant information, Character Bazaar is best for me.
I can safely say that more than 1,000% of my test were inconclusive and different than previously described.

I would lose a BS in null sec very fast to carriers, and groups of 10 frigates and the like.
There is constant warfare and cloaked ships in the system.


I have to learn Survey on my under 900k SP Alt to get better D-Scan results...

I want to prepare to do that for after I finish Character Bazaar Trading to make some ISK.
After I get 5b to 10b from that, I will try to test Anoms again, but it will be changed.
I'm almost certain that it will be changed.
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-02-20 15:57:02 UTC
Zeeba Nabali wrote:
You lost me, man...

Anyway, can I have your stuff?

I wish.

It would fall under psychological warfare too.

I'll be trading on Character Bazaar for the next 2 years from February 2014 to February 2016.
(If the game exist for that long.)
If not then 2.5 years until August 2016.

That also means I won't be updating my DUST 514 characters.
That also means I may not update work on EVE Valkyrie.
Treborr MintingtonJr
S.N.O.T
S.N.O.T.
#23 - 2014-02-20 15:58:27 UTC
Just need to clarify. Am I the only one who has no idea what is going on in this thread?
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-02-20 16:13:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Oiras Isimazu
Treborr MintingtonJr wrote:
Just need to clarify. Am I the only one who has no idea what is going on in this thread?


Just to make sure to be crystal clear:
What is going on in this thread is about Cosmic Anomalies and PvE.

What psychological warfare is being thwarted are attempts to hijack the thread with allusion of confusion, sanity and so on.
The usual psych warfare attacks and of course,
arguments about profit away from the Bazaar potential profit.


It shall come as no surprise even though the test results are 100% accurate and diversion from profit to failure occurs.
That also goes even though the precision level is also higher than needed or required.


Edit:
I'll pass on the attempts at making me look bad for now since it makes the posters look even worst.
Treborr MintingtonJr
S.N.O.T
S.N.O.T.
#25 - 2014-02-20 16:42:21 UTC
To OP I have a lot of experience with Cosmic Anomalies, DED and PvE AND being safe from gank in Nullsec yet I can't apply any of this knowledge here. Give me a specific question.

Some examples I can run this DED complex https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Cartel_Prisoner_Retention in a Dominix for the possibility of looting a Machariel BPC.

Also

I like to run Angel Forsaken Rally Points also in a Dominix at one every 20 mins for something like 25mil per tick.

Ask away.
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-02-20 17:36:11 UTC
EVE Mail sent, I forgot to mention, we could post the EVE mail content here if it is worth it.

I would prefer test it before however as most information doesn't apply to me.


At least it would give me a more accurate idea and more accurate records as the results before posting.

That and the potential 1m ISK to 10m ISK + to have someone else redact the post before.
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#27 - 2014-02-20 21:30:04 UTC
One time bump to fix forum.
Ginger Barbarella
#28 - 2014-02-21 00:49:54 UTC
OK, well, I'm not entirely certain what you're asking either, but it sounds to me like you're running anoms that you aren't ready for. Period. Get your core skills up, and don't fly what you can't competently fly (and succeed with) in normal PvE missions. What's costing you money is the losses, plain and simple. Youre' losing 9m to 12 mil because you're "doing it wrong".

Second, look at this chart from the Wiki: Cosmic Anoms

Stay away from the Anom classes you're not ready for. I can't imagine losing a BC to a high sec anom, but whatever. Get your core skills up, and get the skills up for the weapon system on your chosen ship. If you're only making 900k ISK profit in 9 hours you're clearly not ready for anoms.

Third, I have no idea what a "BH" ship is... ????

Fourth: given what you're losing and your obvious lack of skills, don't even considering buying an SoE boat unless you love wasting ISK. Take a couple months to get your core skills up, do some missioning to learn tactics for PvE, and try again with T1 ships and cheap fits.

If you're asking about something other than I've noted above (like I said, not sure about your original post, probably because of a language barrier), perhaps you could ask a bit more clearly.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#29 - 2014-02-21 12:59:40 UTC
Oiras Isimazu wrote:
Tauranon wrote:
I use a dominix to rat. It shoots up to 26m isk/tick or ~75m/hr. It would take 3 or 4 hours to pay off the fit. I have never lost a spaceship to anomoly rats, and its likely that I'd only ever lose a spaceship in an anomoly because I fell asleep or another player killed me (which is pretty likely if I fall asleep anyway in null).


Where does it shoots up 26m isk/tick or ~75m/hr?

Is it in null Cosmic Anomalies?
If so, what difficulty level are they?
What is the minimum difficulty level?
What about the maximum difficulty level?



Shot these today.

Bounty Prizes 26,516,459.85 ISK
Bounty Prizes 23,261,047.35 ISK
Bounty Prizes 24,187,535.80 ISK

Yes, nullsec, this was alternating between gurista forsaken rally point and gurista hub, which are the best 2 anomolies in my system at the moment. The first forsaken rally point in the sequence escalated too. Neither gurista forsaken rally point or gurista hub are very hard.

You can probably do a little better with gurista forsaken hubs.


Quote:


I would lose a BS in null sec very fast to carriers, and groups of 10 frigates and the like.
There is constant warfare and cloaked ships in the system.



There are 2700 nullsec systems, find a safer one, or work out what politics are required to make one safe. In the above 3 ticks nobody else came into my system. if you aren't very good at fitting ships (it sounds like you aren't), you should practice at level 4 missions for a while, and skill to make them faster (ie T2 tanks, T2 weapons, max out your support skills etc).
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-02-21 16:13:51 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
OK, well, I'm not entirely certain what you're asking either, but it sounds to me like you're running anoms that you aren't ready for. Period. Get your core skills up, and don't fly what you can't competently fly (and succeed with) in normal PvE missions. What's costing you money is the losses, plain and simple. Youre' losing 9m to 12 mil because you're "doing it wrong".

You know that cannot be true.
I have lost absolutely nothing in anomalies so far.
My costs are higher than the rewards plain and simple, therefore, no matter what I try, it won't cover the costs.
That equate to financial losses in terms of higher cost than income or profit.
It shouldn't equate to loss of financial data and misinformation in terms of the accuracy of those financial data.
This would only makes matters worst and add psychological warfare damage.

Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Second, look at this chart from the Wiki: Cosmic Anoms

Stay away from the Anom classes you're not ready for. I can't imagine losing a BC to a high sec anom, but whatever.

That didn't happen, and you clearly misread me.

Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Get your core skills up, and get the skills up for the weapon system on your chosen ship. If you're only making 900k ISK profit in 9 hours you're clearly not ready for anoms.

There are a few reasons why I only made about 900k ISK income or 900k profit (which are not the same) in 9 hours.
Also, by the time I would be ready for the anoms, I would have made more investing in Bazaar.
(You obviously will stray away from that option as the 99%+ others who are wrongfully and falsely suggesting this to me.)

Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Third, I have no idea what a "BH" ship is... ????

Bounty Hunter = BH ship.
You seem pretty young to me unless it's just me...

Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Fourth: given what you're losing and your obvious lack of skills, don't even considering buying an SoE boat unless you love wasting ISK. Take a couple months to get your core skills up, do some missioning to learn tactics for PvE, and try again with T1 ships and cheap fits.

If you're asking about something other than I've noted above (like I said, not sure about your original post, probably because of a language barrier), perhaps you could ask a bit more clearly.

I certainly did have no intentions to consider buying an SoE boat.
Most of my posts are related to making ISK and now pointing at the diversion directed at me to make me loose.
In no way, shapes or forms any of the suggestions were of any use except the one suggesting me to stick to Bazaar.

I have been skilling for 2 years, have 40m SP and 8b worth of capsuleers.
I won't give details on null sec zones infiltration, intelligence gathering on any systems or other political possibility.
I would be better to buy a capsuleer on the Character Bazaar instead of wasting 2 months of time.
That 2 months would eat away at my capsuleer purchasing budget.
And it would further add more financial loss, exactly as you suggest it would not.
Hence the legit claims of psychological warfare.

I am not the kind of guy to try to put or refer to language barrier.
I can write in any natural language using Google translate and even can code and program.
I also use symbols for communication and being an analyst am more than aware about communication skills.
I do that for work.
I can build a database of language barrier and code them with some relative reference so at to quickly discern them.
(It is pretty vain and lame to think to do so and if meant for psychological warfare, with goals to deny rather than promote.)

I was suggested to get a BS to make around from 35m to 70m per hour.
I will not and will trade on the Bazaar before for the obvious expressed reasons.
Besides, CCP deserves the money, not the other way around.
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-02-21 16:17:13 UTC
Tauranon wrote:

There are 2700 nullsec systems, find a safer one, or work out what politics are required to make one safe. In the above 3 ticks nobody else came into my system. if you aren't very good at fitting ships (it sounds like you aren't), you should practice at level 4 missions for a while, and skill to make them faster (ie T2 tanks, T2 weapons, max out your support skills etc).

Pure absolute non-sense, nothing to do with my posts or conditions described.
Worst than 99.5% of all the posters replies now at 1 to 200 or worst.
1 to 300 would equate to a rate of 99.67%.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#32 - 2014-02-21 16:34:47 UTC
Someone get this guy Turing-tested.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Ginger Barbarella
#33 - 2014-02-21 17:18:49 UTC
Batelle wrote:
Someone get this guy Turing-tested.


I'm not sure the language issue (he notes being perfectly understandable with Google translate) is quite as non-existent as the OP thinks. :)

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-02-21 18:41:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Oiras Isimazu
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Batelle wrote:
Someone get this guy Turing-tested.


I'm not sure the language issue (he notes being perfectly understandable with Google translate) is quite as non-existent as the OP thinks. :)

I know they are creating a language issue to make other issues.
And they are all part of the same psychological warfare attempts and goals.

It won't change the fact that accurate data for Cosmic Anomalies are recorded in this thread.
It also reinforces the fact that the attacks at undermining the value of that data and corrupting it are real.
It shows samples of how cost to income ratio information is attempted to be shown differently than effectively.

And , as for all other threads, and even those I would pay writers, there will be those attackers.
Only the few lucky threads where no one has attacked me are left unchanged.

It is more effective to me to use 2 years of costs for EVE at over $500 to $1,000 to invest in Bazaar and save time.
I can make profit and over 100% profit.
The other way around, and according to all suggestions except 1 so far only increases my loss, risks and so on.

To state that it is non-sense, and there is a language issue is not my fault.
It is crystal clear, and I could even hold the party liable for the language.

Definitely Psychological Warfare, and it should be forwarded to the proper authorities.
I know for a fact that if they harassed my kids with comments like that, that I would sue them for it.
Salvos Rhoska
#35 - 2014-02-21 18:56:14 UTC
Oiras Isimazu, your posts are not understandable.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-02-21 19:00:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Oiras Isimazu
English language

Pluricentric language

I can link you to the Psych Warfare info and it is 100% more accurate than any of the language concerns addressed.
Salvos Rhoska
#37 - 2014-02-21 19:05:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Oiras Isimazu, you are not comprehensible.

Your syntax, literal language, grammar and contrived use of definitions, is not understandable by other people.
Even people who are extremely literate and capable in English.

It is not possible to accurately understand your writings, and it is not possible to respond to them intelligently, because no-one can be certain of what you are actually saying.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Ginger Barbarella
#38 - 2014-02-21 19:29:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Ginger Barbarella
Since this thread isn't about cosmic anoms anymore, this is my last word to the OP (who has chosen to change the topic). I replied to his personal email to me in the same way:

From your own posts you make it appear that you don't have the skills to perform optimally in anoms, whether high, low, or null. I suggested getting your skills and techniques up for a while with missions first, to which you replied with something about psychological warfare. OK, whatever.

If you want help creating skillplans to help with anoms, there are plenty of threads on that, and I might also suggest EveMon to plan out some skills plans, and EFT to help you get ship fits based on your current skill levels. Don't use All 5's in EFT, because that won't help you at all.

I've been running anoms in high and low for years, and have profited quite nicely from them based on my chosen gameplay. Saying there is no money, raw income or final profit, is just incorrect. I hope you find the assistance you were probably searching for in your (oddly-phrased) original post.

Fly safe.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2014-02-21 19:38:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Oiras Isimazu
http://heartsandmindsalliance.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&catid=4&id=39&Itemid=232&view=topic
TOPIC: ☣ Neurotechnicon: Adding Excerpts Weekly ☣

This is taken from the Crime & Punishment channel.
Referred from CCP themselves.

Quit harassing me and other in my thread about language.
It ain't going to work.
I communicate in English for over 20 years.
Graduated in Business in English as well.

Keep the topic on Cosmic Anomalies, and quit trying to scam me with false promises that won't happen until after EVE is over.
Stop lying to me that Bazaar is not better for me.

The syntax,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntax
literal language,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literal_and_figurative_language
grammar (there are errors, and it's ok with me, I won't derail a whole thread and poster and their alts for it)
(in fact I won't even try.)

contrived use of definitions
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/contrived
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/contrived
(Obviously planned or calculated) if you search for it on google, this thread and post shows up.


Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Since this thread isn't about cosmic anoms anymore, this is my last word to the OP (who has chosen to change the topic). I replied to his personal email to me in the same way:

Blatant lie.

Stay on topic.

Quit trying to be making excuses about languages, and other non-sense.

I sent you an EVE mail btw

Just because one is extremely literate or capable of English doesn't mean that they are not going to attack me.

If you offered me a doctorate in English I would refuse it on those grounds.


Still, both your posts are off topics.


The reasons anomalies are not worth it to me is due to COSTs.
Not due to my SKILLS or because that others lie about reason that it is not worth it for me.

That is beyond ignorance.

If I do have to include quote from the Neurotechnicon that are related to your activities in this and other thread, it will get ugly and rightly so.
And it should.


How is it not spamming about language issues across the boards?


The one Hurricane that was lost was in low sec , not in high sec.
It happened doing Yard difficulty , which is written in the stupid post.
I managed to kill one of the NPC pirate and warped away to survive.
Instead of going to repair 2 or 3 jumps away safely in High sec I took the risk to go 1 or 2 jumps away in low sec.
I was gate camped and died, as I had 30% HP left and got destroyed in 2 or 3 shots with scramblers.
The scramblers didn't stop me because my HP were too low to survive 3 hits.
They did have insta lock so, it didn't matter.
The BC didn't align fast enough to escape.
My pod survived or at least I didn't loose any implants...

Still, even if I had lost 50m worth of implants, it wouldn't have mattered.
I still don't make profit with it.

The cane insurance also costs 10m to get at platinum level.
So, even if buying a cane at 34m, and getting 35m insurance, it's still 10m short of balanced.
(+/-1 m for the nitty gritty.)

By the way , I don't care what language you speak...
If you come at me and start arguing about merit and blame related to language like this, you're blacklisted.

Edit:
Plus I can't post for free on weekends.
Salvos Rhoska
#40 - 2014-02-21 22:17:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
I am making excellent profits in high sec combat exploration.

I have no idea what your problem seems to be, nor can I understand it from your posts.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
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