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Is it normal to get scammed by The Mittani, Chairman of CSM ???

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Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2011-11-10 08:52:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
XIRUSPHERE wrote:
Jowen Datloran wrote:
Ah well, I guess it was time to have those carebears stop being apathetic about voting anyhow.
Fixed that for you

And you'll all ******* vote Kelduum Revaan. The Spreadsheets in Space (SiS) candidate. You do know he got his entire corporation to vote for corporate interface UI issues during that crowdsourced voting thing a few months back, right? Not hybrid fixes. Not assault frigate fixes. Not fixes to any Flying in Space mechanics. Nope. He asked his large 1500 person corporation to vote for corporate UI fixes. Genius!
AdmiraI Thrawn
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
#102 - 2011-11-10 08:53:16 UTC
If you voted this guy as a Chairman, there's not much I can say. Vote for what? You think my vote counts for anything? It doesn't in real life, it doesn't in here either.

He does not represent me but still is a buffer between CCP and me? Doesn't make sense, does it?

He is a scumbag, nothing more. I learned my lesson...Don't trust the ones who shout they wanna make a better game and 'fight' CCP for it. If 20 bil was the price for it, so be it.

But if CCP agrees with these guys who supposed to be a sort of syndicate then I'm disappointed.
luZk
Fivrelde Corp
#103 - 2011-11-10 08:55:05 UTC
"I bet you'll vote next time....."

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Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2011-11-10 08:56:46 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
He does not represent me ...

The irony is that he's going to use that 20B ISK in his Campaign for Re-Election.
XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
#105 - 2011-11-10 08:57:11 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
XIRUSPHERE wrote:
Jowen Datloran wrote:
Ah well, I guess it was time to have those carebears stop being apathetic about voting anyhow.
Fixed that for you

And you'll all ******* vote Kelduum Revaan. The Spreadsheets in Space (SiS) candidate. You do know he got his entire corporation to vote for corporate interface UI issues during that crowdsourced voting thing a few months back, right? Not hybrid fixes. Not assault frigate fixes. Not fixes to any Flying in Space mechanics. Nope. He asked his large 1500 person corporation to vote for corporate UI fixes. Genius!


Whatever it takes to prove the legitimacy of the CSM has gone the way of the dodo right? But it does prove a point, at this juncture it would be better if we continued to get a high level of feedback and actual devs taking feedback from players rather than a narrow focus.

The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times.

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bp920091
Black Aces
Goonswarm Federation
#106 - 2011-11-10 08:57:23 UTC
TheCarl wrote:
ITT: A foolish pubbie is scammed out of a Nyx, posts his own logs for all to enjoy, and continues to amuse us with his angry pleas to mf'ing Mittani to give him back his space money. Lol

I guess I've seen it all now.


I see it all the time, being in a pirate alliance. you see all sorts of stories about people convoing you about "Why did you blow up my retriever in 0.4 sec space? Concord should stop people like you." These kinds of stories keep me at it, manning the occasionally (or VERY) boring lowsec gatecamps, roaming solo through belts, searching for people, just trying to find people who think that concord would protect them in lowsec.

Hit my security status all you want, give me a bounty (I love that people keep giving me cash when i just get an alt to pop my empty pod), call me names, but dont stop coming out to lowsec, i enjoy kills like that. Its part of what got me into eve and has kept me playing eve for nearly 3 years now.
Tribal Solidarity
Garoun Investment Bank
#107 - 2011-11-10 09:00:44 UTC
Lol. I don't come to E-O forums much but when I do it's to find funnies like this.

Shame about all the other pubbies who were agreeing with this guy in the early stages.

Keep on scamming.
Darth Skorpius
352 Industries
#108 - 2011-11-10 09:09:41 UTC
the irony is eve online is just one giant scam. one day ccp will turn the servers off and keep everyones money.

also, the csm is just an excuse for 7 players to fly to iceland a couple of times a year and get shitfaced with devs and get a free trip to fanfest. anything they actually manage to achieve is a bonus

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Ivana Twinkle
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#109 - 2011-11-10 09:10:54 UTC
A REAL Admiral Thrawn would never have been scammed.
Alara IonStorm
#110 - 2011-11-10 09:14:21 UTC
Ivana Twinkle wrote:
A REAL Admiral Thrawn would never have been scammed.

He would have kicked all your A$$es.

What can I say, the man just knows how to use Dreadnaughts.
Darth Skorpius
352 Industries
#111 - 2011-11-10 09:14:39 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
If you voted this guy as a Chairman, there's not much I can say. Vote for what? You think my vote counts for anything? It doesn't in real life, it doesn't in here either.


so did you vote or not? if you didnt then dont ***** about the csm. people who dont even bother to vote have no right to complain about anything relation to elections, be they rl elections or important internet spaceship elections

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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#112 - 2011-11-10 09:15:08 UTC
In my experience it is normal for almost ANY player to scam should the opportunity arise, no matter what their position in the EvE community. Not to do so is to waste the precious gift of another's stupidity.

Being on the CSM does not mean you stop playing the game and become a saint.

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Rellik B00n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#113 - 2011-11-10 09:16:28 UTC
Kietay Ayari wrote:
Jada Maroo wrote:
Is it normal? Yes.

Should he be allowed to use his position as CSM head to imply a sort of legitimacy and aid in his scams? No. Not only is it lazy and effortless, it gives him an edge over other scammers.


Why not? Doesn't anyone who is deemed reliable enough to be a third party use some kind of background to prove they are trustworthy? Metagame go! It does give him an edge, but it is something you have to work for to get ;D


"hey guys we need a null sec CSM, vote for me"

damn that must have been hard work.
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Day Tradin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#114 - 2011-11-10 09:18:13 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
If you voted this guy as a Chairman, there's not much I can say. Vote for what? You think my vote counts for anything? It doesn't in real life, it doesn't in here either.

He does not represent me but still is a buffer between CCP and me? Doesn't make sense, does it?

He is a scumbag, nothing more. I learned my lesson...Don't trust the ones who shout they wanna make a better game and 'fight' CCP for it. If 20 bil was the price for it, so be it.

But if CCP agrees with these guys who supposed to be a sort of syndicate then I'm disappointed.


It's strange to me that someone who's played the game long enough to train up for a nyx and own a nyx still doesn't know that the Goons are renowned scammers in Eve.

I'm just stupid enough to think that nobody would fall for any of these types of scams anymore because they've all been played out.

If you're so obtuse to be scammed by the Goons at this point, you deserved it.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#115 - 2011-11-10 09:21:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
You think my vote counts for anything? It doesn't in real life, it doesn't in here either.
It is this belief that put Mittens in the chair. You have no-one to blame but yourself. Much like how you have no-one but yourself to blame for your failure at due diligence.
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He does not represent me but still is a buffer between CCP and me? Doesn't make sense, does it?
Sure it does. It's how most democratic representation ends up working.
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I learned my lesson...Don't trust the ones who shout they wanna make a better game and 'fight' CCP for it.
So tou havent't learned your lesson at all. You still think of it as “a CSM" scammed you, when in actuality, a player — a goon, even — scammed you, which as surprises go is right up there with water being wet.
Darth Skorpius
352 Industries
#116 - 2011-11-10 09:23:59 UTC
Tippia wrote:
which as surprises go is riggt up there with water being wet.


wait, water is wet? when did that happen and why did no one tell me?

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AdmiraI Thrawn
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
#117 - 2011-11-10 09:25:48 UTC
Samillian wrote:
In my experience it is normal for almost ANY player to scam should the opportunity arise, no matter what their position in the EvE community. Not to do so is to waste the precious gift of another's stupidity.

Being on the CSM does not mean you stop playing the game and become a saint.



CSM should represent players, right? So if their Chairman is scamming players, can I suggest CCP not dealing with them at all? This guy is just sad...as someone said, it's just space money, the isk is not the issue. The CCP cooperation with this kind of people makes me wonder...
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#118 - 2011-11-10 09:29:05 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
Samillian wrote:
In my experience it is normal for almost ANY player to scam should the opportunity arise, no matter what their position in the EvE community. Not to do so is to waste the precious gift of another's stupidity.

Being on the CSM does not mean you stop playing the game and become a saint.



CSM should represent players, right? So if their Chairman is scamming players, can I suggest CCP not dealing with them at all? This guy is just sad...as someone said, it's just space money, the isk is not the issue. The CCP cooperation with this kind of people makes me wonder...

Guess you should have voted

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Darth Skorpius
352 Industries
#119 - 2011-11-10 09:30:52 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
Samillian wrote:
In my experience it is normal for almost ANY player to scam should the opportunity arise, no matter what their position in the EvE community. Not to do so is to waste the precious gift of another's stupidity.

Being on the CSM does not mean you stop playing the game and become a saint.



CSM should represent players, right? So if their Chairman is scamming players, can I suggest CCP not dealing with them at all? This guy is just sad...as someone said, it's just space money, the isk is not the issue. The CCP cooperation with this kind of people makes me wonder...


no, csm represnt the players who voted for them, which in mittens case is mostly goons and other goon type people. and are you saying ccp should ignore the csm? do you actually want anything changed in the upcoming expansion? becuase smoe (most? all?) of those changes wouldnt be happening at all if it wasnt for the csm, in fact if it wasnt for the csm ccp wouldh ave continued heading straight off a cliff and eve would actualyl be dying right now ( and not the doom and gloom dying, actual legit dying with more mass unsubs)

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KSUDruid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#120 - 2011-11-10 09:31:30 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
If you voted this guy as a Chairman, there's not much I can say. Vote for what? You think my vote counts for anything? It doesn't in real life, it doesn't in here either.

He does not represent me but still is a buffer between CCP and me? Doesn't make sense, does it?

He is a scumbag, nothing more. I learned my lesson...Don't trust the ones who shout they wanna make a better game and 'fight' CCP for it. If 20 bil was the price for it, so be it.

But if CCP agrees with these guys who supposed to be a sort of syndicate then I'm disappointed.


Sorry to burst your bubble here but as previously stated in this thread, you should've preformed a background check if you were unsure or waited for a trusted name such as Chribba or Grendell.

CSM are elected from us the players to represent our voice. Just as you vote in a President/Prime Minister, they are just normal people and therefore are allowed to play the game as seen fit. Only rules that appiles is an NDA to prevent new content and stop CSM members gaining an advantage 'insider knowledge'.

EvE is a cruel mistress and you paid the heavy price... Space is a cold, desolate place isnt it?