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Is it normal to get scammed by The Mittani, Chairman of CSM ???

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Tora Oni
Legendary Sidekicks in Space
#381 - 2011-11-11 11:30:14 UTC
Scamming, yeh it sucks if you are on the bad end of it (fun if you are the scammer Pirate). Someone who has so many isks to spend should have enough experience to avoid these kind of scams. It would have been different in my opinion if a newbie was scammed of 20B isks. But then .... he shouldn't have tried to buy himself into the game. I agree, the CSM avatar thing gives you false sense of security, but there are so many examples on the forums about goons scamming, that you should have known there was a BIG risk to take. As I did when I got scammed for 800M by a goon (Badddd goons ! Twisted ) If you knew it and took it willingly then you shouldn't be complaining. I also think there should be a better ingame option for these kind of contracts, cause trust you cant have in a game where scamming is allowed. And I do think there should be a rule that scamming is allowed here, but only INGAME. So no website or any other tools outside EVE. In a lot of countries its even illegal to do so, cause the virtual isks have a value in game.

But no worries, life will be goon again in EVE when I take over the CSM board .... Twisted. I will change it all and will not accept anything below 20B!
Pel Xadi
Doomheim
#382 - 2011-11-11 11:31:34 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:

If Eve have as CSM chairman a lousy scammer, I do understand what community this game has. Well, most of it's members. Exactly as in real life. Lots of shitheads. Too many, can't fight them all.


Seems this scam couldn't have happened to a more deserving individual.

Had sympathised with the loss previously, was understandable to a point, but as soon as you descended into the generalising insults you yourself became one of these fabricated "shitheads" you desperatley seem to want to beleive are rampant within the gaming community.

Way to go to encourage support towards any cause you think justified. If it wasn't stupidity before, but just missplaced trust, it seems your debate is descending into "knuckle scraping" cleverness now.
AdmiraI Thrawn
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
#383 - 2011-11-11 11:34:58 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Why would you even want to fight everyone? It's so much more efficient to adapt yourself than it is to throw a fit when the rest of the world does not conform to how you'd like it to be.


By that I don't mean that I'm smart and the rest are stupid. That's would be the very first sign that I'm the stupid one. I don't wanna fight all, obviously it would be an endless fight that I cannot win. What I wanted to point out is that a CSM should not be involved in such thing. You can clearly see when a CSM is on a thread. That fooled me, I thought they actually create a better communication between players and CCP. CCP obviously admit they exist, that's why they have "CSM' on their avatar.

So it's kinda complicated for me to understand why the one who's there to help ( at least that's what they supposed to do ), are doing something I, for example, shouldn't be proud about it. I worked my ass earning the isk in game without a single scam.
And in a few minutes, the CSM chairman decided to scam me cos he was bored maybe? Sad to be him, that's my opinion.
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#384 - 2011-11-11 11:44:07 UTC
Can't scam an honest man!
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#385 - 2011-11-11 11:49:45 UTC
Does that mean that Admiral Thrawn is a dishonest man?

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Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#386 - 2011-11-11 11:51:26 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Does that mean that Admiral Thrawn is a dishonest man?


Yes, I suppose it does.

Shameful and dishonest.
Sirane Elrek
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#387 - 2011-11-11 12:03:35 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
I thought they actually create a better communication between players and CCP.

I don't understand how you getting scammed precludes that.

Admiral Thrawn wrote:
CCP obviously admit they exist, that's why they have "CSM' on their avatar.

Do you see "CSM" in front of Mittens's name in the game? Or is there an overlay saying "CSM" on his avatar there? Because I'm pretty sure there isn't. And even assuming (without prejudice) that your logs may be legitimate, they still don't say "Hi I'm a member of the CSM so you should trust me". So he only has "CSM" on his avatar on this very forum. A forum where every second thread says "I HAVEBEENSCAMMEDBY AGOON, BEWARE". Not to mention that text he writes isn't in a special color, like it is with EVERY OTHER CCP REP. So the only thing that says "Mittani is representing CCP" is your own imagination. But rest assured that GMs and other CCP employees on their official GM or CCP characters won't scam you (that second).
Dervinus
LowKey Ops
Snuffed Out
#388 - 2011-11-11 12:42:08 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Does that mean that Admiral Thrawn is a dishonest man?


I see no other alternative

o7 toonies

Alua Oresson
Aegis Ascending
Solyaris Chtonium
#389 - 2011-11-11 12:47:19 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
So it's kinda complicated for me to understand why the one who's there to help ( at least that's what they supposed to do ), are doing something I, for example, shouldn't be proud about it. I worked my ass earning the isk in game without a single scam.
And in a few minutes, the CSM chairman decided to scam me cos he was bored maybe? Sad to be him, that's my opinion.



Yes, the CSM is there to facilitate communications between the playerbase and CCP. If you go to the CSM area of the forums and make a suggestion for a change to the game that you believe to be a good change (and other players find to be a good change), the CSM will bring it to the attention of the appropriate CCP people. That is what their job is. Besides doing their job they are free to do whatever they wish in a game.

What you are suggesting is that the CSM should cease doing thing that run counter to your morals when they are playing the game. To me, THAT is an immoral idea. What you are advocating is for people that already spend unpaid time working to make the game better to conform to your code of ethics. I have no words to describe how evil and repugnant your demands are.

http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/

AdmiraI Thrawn
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
#390 - 2011-11-11 12:52:59 UTC
Sirane Elrek wrote:
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
I thought they actually create a better communication between players and CCP.

I don't understand how you getting scammed precludes that.

Admiral Thrawn wrote:
CCP obviously admit they exist, that's why they have "CSM' on their avatar.

Do you see "CSM" in front of Mittens's name in the game? Or is there an overlay saying "CSM" on his avatar there? Because I'm pretty sure there isn't. And even assuming (without prejudice) that your logs may be legitimate, they still don't say "Hi I'm a member of the CSM so you should trust me". So he only has "CSM" on his avatar on this very forum. A forum where every second thread says "I HAVEBEENSCAMMEDBY AGOON, BEWARE". Not to mention that text he writes isn't in a special color, like it is with EVERY OTHER CCP REP. So the only thing that says "Mittani is representing CCP" is your own imagination. But rest assured that GMs and other CCP employees on their official GM or CCP characters won't scam you (that second).


I never said that guy represents CCP, I dunno where did you get that. I said that being a CSM, he supposed to help community to have a closer relation with CCP. When the buyer told me about Mittani, I asked if he did any 3rd party before and he/she linked me the page where says that mittani is the chairman of CSM, also said that sold his/her Erebus before. I dunno if the buyer is actually a mittani alt or not but he/she recommended him as a trustful person as being the CHAIRMAN of CSM. They obviously worked together or mittani alone with his alt.

If in your eyes I am stupid cos I fell for this scam, then you must rethink your scale of values in life. Actually, many players do in games what they would do in real life. So I have to say, I feel much better in my shoes rather than be in his....even if I fell for this scam...space internet money...Way to go mittani, go represent the community. If he represents the community then I defo am not part of it.
Mullokad Iwaira
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#391 - 2011-11-11 12:59:30 UTC
As a CSM the "Mittens" is the ducks nut, no other CSM has his finger on the pulse on EVE like this peep does! BUT you did a transaction with a GOON? What the **** are you smokiing? What the **** did you expect!
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
#392 - 2011-11-11 13:00:39 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
If he represents the community then I defo am not part of it.


Before you unsub in a fit of rage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0I

This is definately about you.

Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen.                   And some days, you're just a man with a gun.

Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#393 - 2011-11-11 13:05:50 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
Way to go mittani, go represent the community. If he represents the community then I defo am not part of it.


Hello, you must be new to EVE.

Next you'll be telling me a known and highly-publicized outlaw didn't get voted in as an CSM alternate specifically by scamming and deceiving people out of their votes.

http://www.wormholes.info

Alua Oresson
Aegis Ascending
Solyaris Chtonium
#394 - 2011-11-11 13:06:40 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
When the buyer told me about Mittani, I asked if he did any 3rd party before and he/she linked me the page where says that mittani is the chairman of CSM, also said that sold his/her Erebus before.


So, you went and had the buyer tell you who you could trust? Excuse me...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Could I buy a supercap from you? I have this great third party we can use...

http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/

Sutskop
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#395 - 2011-11-11 13:15:15 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:

If Eve have as CSM chairman a lousy scammer, I do understand what community this game has. Well, most of it's members. Exactly as in real life. Lots of shitheads. Too many, can't fight them all.


Exactly why I quit Counterstrike. Full of idiots trying to kill me.
AdmiraI Thrawn
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
#396 - 2011-11-11 13:35:25 UTC
Alua Oresson wrote:
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
When the buyer told me about Mittani, I asked if he did any 3rd party before and he/she linked me the page where says that mittani is the chairman of CSM, also said that sold his/her Erebus before.


So, you went and had the buyer tell you who you could trust? Excuse me...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Could I buy a supercap from you? I have this great third party we can use...


Sure thing...but better be chairman of some sort of Syndicate too...

Anyway, ppl vote for a scammer, that's cool...You working on a scientific project to resurrect Hitler too? There are some more names worth to mention...then we'll have a better world.
CoLe Blackblood
the united
#397 - 2011-11-11 13:44:59 UTC
Just hope they remember to pay their bills or it's lights out!
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#398 - 2011-11-11 13:52:03 UTC
21 pages for a spacehitler reference?

Man, I didn't think we were ever going to get it there for a bit.
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#399 - 2011-11-11 13:52:33 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Tyrone Cashmoney wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Hey now that's MY CEO
90% of the Goons you see in eve today are just people who have SA accounts and posted on the forums. They are not real goons.


The secret is out!


That is not a secret...

Who is really running goonswarm, now that is a secret.


The Blizzard Dev team.
"If."
Cerisia
Red Phoenix Rising
#400 - 2011-11-11 15:14:31 UTC
Ispia Jaydrath wrote:
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
Zions Child wrote:
Ohai der. I do believe you have posted the first reply on the nineteenth page of this here whine thread. I hope you have read through the whole thing, as it is fabulous.



Butthurt stuff.


Hee hee!

The best part of this whole thing is that the more mittens makes worthless scrubs like you cry, the more everybody loves and respects him. You are literally earning him votes in the next election right now.




He has my vote (for what it's worth) Big smile
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