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Is it normal to get scammed by The Mittani, Chairman of CSM ???

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JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#201 - 2011-11-10 11:29:23 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Tippia wrote:
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
You don't get it, do you? In game scam is ok, is allowed, part of the game. CSM is not ingame syndicate, they actually go and meet CCP in real LIFE !
So what? The CSM didn't scam you — Mittens did, which is completely unsurprising seeing as how he's the Goon CEO. Why are you so confused by this?
Quote:
CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me.
How did he do that? At no point in the log you posted does he mention his CSM chairmanship or use it as an argument why you should hand over a large sum of ISK to him. Or, to put it another way…
Quote:
You still don't get it. he abused me using his position.
…no, he didn't. He abused you using your laziness and lack of due diligence.

I would kindly remind you that The Mittani has not been found guilty of scamming and therefore these allegations should not be addressed with such a tone as to express presumption of fact. In fact, we ought to be going out of our way to presume that, in the lack of damning evidence and a ruling to establish guilt, The Mittani is innocent of these charges. It is better to let a hundred guilty men go free than to falsely imprison one innocent man, or mitten.

Non issue. I hereby accuse the mitani of flying spaceships, and fitting them, and all sorts of normal parts of the Eve game mechanic....

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#202 - 2011-11-10 11:38:48 UTC
Dyner wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys.

Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that.



Goonswarm, we are the 0.01% :P

Your all the females in eve?

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#203 - 2011-11-10 11:42:18 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Dyner wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys.

Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that.



Goonswarm, we are the 0.01% :P

Your all the females in eve?

I know of at least five women in Theta Squad alone.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#204 - 2011-11-10 11:44:53 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me.


The petition won't help, because he didn't break any rules. Sorry.

By the way, CSM are just players who communicate with the devs, not CCP employees bound by a code of ethics. They do have ingame restrictions, like following NDA and not trying to profit off future changes to the game. (For example, if Mittani knew that, say, Scrap Metal was suddenly going to be made to refine into Megacyte , and he bought up a **** ton of Scrap Metal to sell, he would get banned.)

Making a profit off overtrusting people with too much ISK however... that's fair game.

It just occurred to me that this thread only found its way into C+P after several pages, and that this post was on the first page; and, yet, Admiral Thrawn is still here, a dozen pages later, not getting the message. At this point I don't think there is any real point in repeating the same thing over and over to him; either he is a troll, or he simply refuses to believe that the game could be run this way; or, some other explanation beyond my ken exists for which I feel no shame being unable to fathom or even consider. Ever the optimist, I will try one more time to connect with the dear space admiral: no rules were broken in your hypothetical allegation; this thread shall serve no purpose but to provide goons and our friends a reason to post and to "like," each other's posts here on spacebook; and, hopefully, neither you nor anyone else reading this thread will take away any reasonable knowledge from it because as Dear Leader kindly noted we are presently having a newbie recruitment drive on Something Awful and we don't want our poor newbies to go hungry because people suddenly smartened up after years of falling for the same scams.




I don't get your the message, you don't get mine. We live in different worlds therefore we cannot agree on this subject. I don't scam people, not in game, not in real life. That's how I am. I got scammed, my bad for trusting a scumbag. End of story.

I hope some other players benefit by reading this post and won't get scammed, at least not the way I was.

CSM is a bunch of players that have written CSM on their avatar...At least I got that right.

I get your message: you believe that the members of the CSM are or should be held to an ethical code of conduct with regards to their interactions with other players. My message is simply that they are not. This is not an opinion-based argument; it is a statement of facts and policy, which coincidentally has been confirmed by a GM response.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Dyner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#205 - 2011-11-10 11:44:55 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Dyner wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys.

Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that.



Goonswarm, we are the 0.01% :P

Your all the females in eve?



Someone hasn't been made aware of the Occupy Protest Straight
Alara IonStorm
#206 - 2011-11-10 11:45:19 UTC
Dyner wrote:

awwwwwwwwwwwwe-sum!

This is what I have planned out for us

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kl4hJ4j48s

**** You.

Now I am stuck on Disney Songs.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#207 - 2011-11-10 11:46:14 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
So, what's next ? CCP scamming ?

I paid for the plex and time has not been added to my pilot license.
CCP: No you didn't.


I am but a humble elected representative of the people.

It just so happens that the people love war, murder, scamming and sadism. vOv


This needs to be your motto for the next election.

Its already your platform Pirate

I regret that I have but one "like" to give per post.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Sutskop
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#208 - 2011-11-10 11:46:29 UTC
So you did no research whatsoever but counted on

AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
AdmiraI Thrawn > you recommended him


Seriously? So much effort for 20b? And now you come to the forums asking what the CSM is actually doing?
I think it's pretty noble the buyer offered to split the loss, but obviously you were both clueless.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#209 - 2011-11-10 11:48:46 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Dyner wrote:

awwwwwwwwwwwwe-sum!

This is what I have planned out for us

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kl4hJ4j48s

**** You.

Now I am stuck on Disney Songs.

Every time that I hear or read someone say "deception" or "scam," in EVE Online, I get "Not One of Us," from The Lion King 2 stuck in my head; sometimes, I go and watch it on YouTube, and the next thing you know it's "Be Prepared," "Hakuna Matata," "Prince Ali," and dear god there are just so many songs from my childhood that I only ever hear when the muse strikes me in the form of someone in EVE Online talking about doing mean things to other players. I think this might be some sort of psychological deficit on my part, that I associate these pleasant memories and fanciful songs with the dystopian space-libertarianism of EVE Online.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Dyner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#210 - 2011-11-10 11:52:16 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Dyner wrote:

awwwwwwwwwwwwe-sum!

This is what I have planned out for us

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kl4hJ4j48s

**** You.

Now I am stuck on Disney Songs.



Work here is done...ish
Alara IonStorm
#211 - 2011-11-10 12:20:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Lyris Nairn wrote:

Every time that I hear or read someone say "deception" or "scam," in EVE Online, I get "Not One of Us," from The Lion King 2 stuck in my head; sometimes, I go and watch it on YouTube, and the next thing you know it's "Be Prepared," "Hakuna Matata," "Prince Ali," and dear god there are just so many songs from my childhood that I only ever hear when the muse strikes me in the form of someone in EVE Online talking about doing mean things to other players. I think this might be some sort of psychological deficit on my part, that I associate these pleasant memories and fanciful songs with the dystopian space-libertarianism of EVE Online.

I still watch Lilo and Stitch from time to time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmdx7C_R6rA

Lilo is so disturbing, lying about being beaten with bricks to a Social Worker, and she just goes to town on some kids face with her fist.

So glad Disney grew a pair.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#212 - 2011-11-10 12:41:20 UTC
Dyner wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Dyner wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys.

Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that.



Goonswarm, we are the 0.01% :P

Your all the females in eve?



Someone hasn't been made aware of the Occupy Protest Straight

I am aware, but I am also aware the in eve, the 1% worth mention is the female population of our fair universe. Cool

Dam, I just realized how twisted and kinky this game really is Twisted

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Archare
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#213 - 2011-11-10 13:37:27 UTC
to the OP
This could be you!

tho i hear goons charge 250 mil to join as a spai
Amara Jade
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#214 - 2011-11-10 13:56:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Amara Jade
Quote:
I feel it is necessary to defend my good name.



You were in possession of 48k contraband Oxygen Isotopes, hasn't anyone told you about Gallente ice?

Regardless though, I'm the victim here - I never have and never will scam anyone, and now I have to go through my eve life (because eve is real) always looking over my shoulder for when you decide to spend more isk on this incident because of a misunderstanding and faked chatlogs (since when do I type 400 words per minute?). In the words of the Father, :cripes:

Quote:
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nyx

From: Acwron
To: Amara Jade
INBOX
Remove Label

I'll tell you that then : I will hire people ( mercenaries ), track you down ( you know, there's some locators that helps with that ) and will pop the Nyx, whatever alts you have related to this character. I have isk, alot of isk...And I don't like being scammed.

For that reason I will spend alot to see you going down.

So if you wanna prove that you did not want to scam me, send me back the isk or fly my ******* Nyx back to Period Basis. I proved that I was honest and gave you the Nyx, now it's your turn.

Looking forward to solve it in a nice way otherwise will be the highway.
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#215 - 2011-11-10 14:07:41 UTC
Selling The Mittani and Amara Jade corpses 1b each payment to be received beforehand
Konno Yoshiho
Perkone
Caldari State
#216 - 2011-11-10 14:20:40 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:

Dear CCP,

Those evil Goonies said they would only stick the tip in. But they lied and went balls deep. Now my pussy hurts. My pussy hurts bad. Please, please make my pussy feel better.

P.S. I was also promised a cuddle and breakfast. All I got was a pat on the head and a Pop-Tart. This injustice will not stand!

Love Admiral Thrawn.
proxwar
Doomheim
#217 - 2011-11-10 14:25:17 UTC
My mind boggles at the amount of people still unaware of how honestly challenged all of the goons are.

Seriously, anyone who still gets scammed by them deserve it tbh.

P.S.

To the OP.
I will kill and pod Mittens and deliver the corspe personally for just 1b, payment upfront of course.
AdmiraI Thrawn
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
#218 - 2011-11-10 14:25:42 UTC
Amara Jade wrote:
Quote:
I feel it is necessary to defend my good name.



You were in possession of 48k contraband Oxygen Isotopes, hasn't anyone told you about Gallente ice?

Regardless though, I'm the victim here - I never have and never will scam anyone, and now I have to go through my eve life (because eve is real) always looking over my shoulder for when you decide to spend more isk on this incident because of a misunderstanding and faked chatlogs (since when do I type 400 words per minute?). In the words of the Father, :cripes:

Quote:
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nyx

From: Acwron
To: Amara Jade
INBOX
Remove Label

I'll tell you that then : I will hire people ( mercenaries ), track you down ( you know, there's some locators that helps with that ) and will pop the Nyx, whatever alts you have related to this character. I have isk, alot of isk...And I don't like being scammed.

For that reason I will spend alot to see you going down.

So if you wanna prove that you did not want to scam me, send me back the isk or fly my ******* Nyx back to Period Basis. I proved that I was honest and gave you the Nyx, now it's your turn.

Looking forward to solve it in a nice way otherwise will be the highway.



LOL fake chat logs ! Why should I ever waste time to fake some logs for the benefit of whom? You even had the guts to ask for 5 more bil to give me back my Nyx. 5 bil which ofc would've been wasted as well.

At least you didn't fake my email, what's in there is written by me. I have reasons to believe that you are connected to the High Master CSM Chairman. If you are not and want to prove wrong, do what I asked, do what I did : I did trust you and delivered the Nyx to you with the fit I specified on forum, you do the same for me : then I will send you thru Chribba or Darknesss 10 bil back so we can split the loss.

Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers.
Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#219 - 2011-11-10 14:52:20 UTC
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:
Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers.


So, not only do you lose 20B by falling for the scam, you'll now lose even more to try and get back. Should we expect another thead like this titled "mercenaries stole 5B from me and didn't kill Mittani or that other guy like I asked"?
Phoenix Kar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#220 - 2011-11-10 14:57:29 UTC