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Make the game more interesting: break empire highsec connections

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Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-02-08 12:06:28 UTC
Break all highsec connections between empires.

For example you would have to travel through lowsec from Minmatar to Gallente. Same from Minmatar to Amarr and so on.

Allow highsec connections to only interempire region jumps.

For example you could jump from Metropolis to Heimatar by using highsec connection, but then if you would like to move towards Sinq laison, you would have to cross the dangerous lowsec.

1) Jita's value as largest hub would decrease, because you couldn't run freighters easily with alts.

2) It would make life on lowsec space much more interesting

3) It would spawn up a real need for escorting your haulers and freighters

4) Use of jump freighters would increase, however, it's expensive to use them

5) There has been similar changes in the past, like Jitas connections have been changed few times.



Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-02-08 12:12:00 UTC
must have mutli pipe systems otherwise you got to many rancer type system maybe , or im total wrong i dunno

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Esha Ditrix
#3 - 2014-02-08 12:15:32 UTC
Lugalbandak wrote:
or im total wrong

no, i think you are completly right,
i still like the general idea though Cool

Its not an exploit, if the game lets you do it...
Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-02-08 12:15:58 UTC
Lugalbandak wrote:
must have mutli pipe systems otherwise you got to many rancer type system maybe , or im total wrong i dunno

No, you are correct. Great wildlands have these pipes, and they are good.
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-02-08 12:19:32 UTC
What about we make everything low sec, heck no, null sec, we wouldn't want gate guns to interfere with our freighter ganking right? Yup ! sounds good .. but wait what's that sound I hear? Oh, that's just Eve's economy grinding to a halt, nothing important.
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Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-02-08 12:25:56 UTC
J3ssica Alba wrote:
What about we make everything low sec, heck no, null sec, we wouldn't want gate guns to interfere with our freighter ganking right? Yup ! sounds good .. but wait what's that sound I hear? Oh, that's just Eve's economy grinding to a halt, nothing important.

So you seriously do believe that economy in EVE online depends on having one single large continent of highsec space? Big smile
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-02-08 12:26:07 UTC
Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua wrote:
Lugalbandak wrote:
must have mutli pipe systems otherwise you got to many rancer type system maybe , or im total wrong i dunno

No, you are correct. Great wildlands have these pipes, and they are good.


yeah its fun , you find me in low sec too. Wonder how the economics will be in eve after your idea , i like it tho

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Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-02-08 12:27:26 UTC
Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua wrote:
J3ssica Alba wrote:
What about we make everything low sec, heck no, null sec, we wouldn't want gate guns to interfere with our freighter ganking right? Yup ! sounds good .. but wait what's that sound I hear? Oh, that's just Eve's economy grinding to a halt, nothing important.

So you seriously do believe that economy in EVE online depends on having one single large continent of highsec space? Big smile


dont think so , but will be different , positif i tend to believe

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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-02-08 12:29:53 UTC
Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua wrote:
J3ssica Alba wrote:
What about we make everything low sec, heck no, null sec, we wouldn't want gate guns to interfere with our freighter ganking right? Yup ! sounds good .. but wait what's that sound I hear? Oh, that's just Eve's economy grinding to a halt, nothing important.

So you seriously do believe that economy in EVE online depends on having one single large continent of highsec space? Big smile


I believe that the majority of indy people are risk averse and prefer to live all their lives in hi sec, building ships and mods and whatever else they build. They would rather quit than move through low to different trade hubs. 
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Nerath Naaris
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#10 - 2014-02-08 12:30:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerath Naaris
So you want the four Empire spaces isolated from each other? Agreed IF in return jumping into Low-sec no longer puts you around the gate (and right inside the local gate camps) but somewhere in the middle of the system, or at least at a GREATLY increased radius from the gate. Also no longer working smartbombs within the range of gates.
No free rides for those so-called Low-Sec "PvPers" that are so elite when blobbing all those high-sec idiots who don´t know what they get themselves into by jumping into Low-Sec.

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Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-02-08 12:31:48 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:

No free rides for those so-called Low-Sec "PvPers" that are so elite when blobbing all those high-sec idiots who don´t know what they get themselves into by jumping into Low-Sec.

I thought that this game is multiplayer game.

Get friends and break that camp?
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-02-08 12:32:11 UTC
considering there are market hubs in highsec islands already (octanneve) i doubt it'd Shocked DESTROY THE ECONOMY Shocked
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#13 - 2014-02-08 12:33:39 UTC
Do your research. This used to be the case, and it was removed because it was a terrible terrible idea and caused numerous problems.

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#14 - 2014-02-08 12:34:20 UTC
The other thread is already at 55 pages. Practically every iteration has been discussed in case you're looking for something to read.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097

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Alastair Ormand
Mine all the things
#15 - 2014-02-08 12:35:24 UTC
Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua wrote:
J3ssica Alba wrote:
What about we make everything low sec, heck no, null sec, we wouldn't want gate guns to interfere with our freighter ganking right? Yup ! sounds good .. but wait what's that sound I hear? Oh, that's just Eve's economy grinding to a halt, nothing important.

So you seriously do believe that economy in EVE online depends on having one single large continent of highsec space? Big smile

There are other trade hubs other than Jita you know... Jita just was chosen by the people to be a center for trading... We have them in real life too, they're called towns/cities. **** happens in there, where currency is traded for other **** people want/need.

I know it's confusing just take it easy, word by word.

I discourage running with scissors.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2014-02-08 12:39:51 UTC
Alastair Ormand wrote:
I know it's confusing just take it easy, word by word.

your post has nothing to do with the one you're quoting
Sentinel zx
#17 - 2014-02-08 12:48:19 UTC
Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua wrote:
Break all highsec connections between empires.

For example you would have to travel through lowsec from Minmatar to Gallente. Same from Minmatar to Amarr and so on.

Allow highsec connections to only interempire region jumps.

For example you could jump from Metropolis to Heimatar by using highsec connection, but then if you would like to move towards Sinq laison, you would have to cross the dangerous lowsec.

1) Jita's value as largest hub would decrease, because you couldn't run freighters easily with alts.

2) It would make life on lowsec space much more interesting

3) It would spawn up a real need for escorting your haulers and freighters

4) Use of jump freighters would increase, however, it's expensive to use them

5) There has been similar changes in the past, like Jitas connections have been changed few times.




please read this

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097
Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-02-08 12:51:41 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Do your research. This used to be the case, and it was removed because it was a terrible terrible idea and caused numerous problems.

Name few problems? I would like to hear them.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#19 - 2014-02-08 13:14:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua wrote:
Arduemont wrote:
Do your research. This used to be the case, and it was removed because it was a terrible terrible idea and caused numerous problems.

Name few problems? I would like to hear them.


Well, everyone would all be bunched together in one of the empires for a start. Don't get me wrong, I want what you want, but this is not the answer.

Carebears don't leave highsec. You can't force them to. If you split the empires, they will all live separate and content in their own little bubbles and never leave same as before. What you will probably find is that all highsec players would congregate in the one empire space that has the biggest trade hub and never leave. Three empty empires and one packed cesspool.

The Eve you envision sounds amazing, but doing this wouldn't get you what you want. It would just make highsec even more separated and 'single-player'esque than it already is.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2014-02-08 13:22:19 UTC
there are plenty of carebears in the highsec next to syndicate
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