EVE General Discussion

there's no way for concord to know you're in a system? you have to travel through stargates! they know what system you're in because you've traveled through a gate and concord knows in what system you're in. its just like the way you can be tracked with something like ezpass, smart tag, whatever it's called. there's a record of you getting on the road, and a record of you getting off. no record of you leaving, there's a good chance you're on the road.
if you use a stargate, you should appear in local

pirates get into highsec via jump bridges of some sort, therefore their presence is not known by the gate watchers

there, i just gave you two lore reasons why you should keep local

All of that is indeed supported by lore and I accept that as how things should be, especially in empire space (0.0 is up for debate, another topic)





So explain to me why, according to the lore, I would appear in local after entering system from a wormhole.

This is an old topic to be sure... but I have always thought it would be so lovely as a predator.

Expect tidal waves of miners' tears as now they can only start to react if we jump into their belt, etc... would love to see the adaptations.

On the plus side, it supports the RP community immensely as it would develop a true sense of hi sec or 'civilized space' WITH a local chat channel, versus the unsupported 'wild space' of low sec WITHOUT the local chat channel.

The main negative to the devs is that is makes low sec that much scarier. The Golden Idea that will win all the iskies is how to move hi sec players into low sec. Unfortunately making low sec harder and scarier is not difficult to non-combat pilots...

Those that recognize the cycle also recognize it's pointless to point it out.

hi sec should have it
in lo sec it should be intermittent/unreliable or not there
npc null, maybe shouldn't have it
null local channel should be controlled by sov holder (i.e. they choose to be on it or not but you don't, and you don't see it)
local should be hackable/manipulatable with a module &/or skill (to remove yourself from it)

like the cloaking idea

going out into the great unknown and still having a little cast iron accurate and up to date list of whose in the system without any explanation of how it works, what kind of signals you are giving out (esp if you set up your ship to be hard to probe, lol) or who owns it is incredibly jarring.

I just spent a few days ominously afk cloaked in someone's WH with very dramatic effects. Local had nothing to do with it. Noone needs local except the bots. You just have to remind the inhabitants occasionally that you're there. And there are a plethora of ways to do so: kill the occasional and random PI hauler, mining hulk, show up on dscan.

Confirming that instant and omniscient local needs to go away. PvEers might have to have a CAP (combat air patrol) to protect them. OR god forbid, they have to PvP fit their ships.

Don't be stupid and you won't get killed. It's way to easy to stay safe in nulsec. The last time I got killed doing a PvE activity was because I was half asleep ratting in a pipe system. Never even noticed the red in local until he literally popped up on grid in my sanctum. lol, was like, wtf is that? Since when do Guristas fly Cynabals? Why does that strange new rat have a red tag?

Yeah, was funny. Cool story and all that.

Point is that if you don't take unnecessary risks, you don't get killed needlessly. Also, this is an MMO, not a single-player game. IF you try to solo Eve, you will get involuntarily corn-holed. So HTFU and adapt.

IF you are worried about not having someone to talk to, then there must be something wrong with you. You have corp chat, alliance chat (if you're in one) constellation chat, region chat, and any number of voluntary and public corp chats you can join. There is no shortage of chat channels, so stop using that as an excuse.

"I need local intel to find gudfites!" Yeah, starmap is your friend. Along with actual friends who go out and scout you some fights. You still have your intel channels. Put your intel alt on the friggin gate instead of at a safe.

Get rid of instant local intel!

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