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Remove local list (make all local like w-space)

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Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-11-10 03:03:38 UTC
Because it is how it should be.

In fact it doesn't make sense that some omnipotent CONCORD tracking device can detect your presence within a system and making it a metagaming device.

In fact it doesn't make sense for such a mechnism to exist in the lore.

In fact it doesn't make sense to have everyone know about your presence the moment you jump in unless of course you speak into it.

In fact like a real life radio system you won't know who is listening until they speak something on air. And even then you do not know how long he is going to be on air or when did he leave.

CCP please remove the local list and local count. The starmap statistics is MORE THAN ENOUGH for metagaming.
Black Dranzer
#2 - 2011-11-10 03:05:02 UTC
Actually, come to think of it, weren't CCP meant to be doing something to nullsec local in time for Christmas?

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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#3 - 2011-11-10 03:06:09 UTC
The only real issue with local is that you can see cloaked ships in there, and that they can see local while cloaked.

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-11-10 03:06:30 UTC
(not this thread again)
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Hershman
Creepers Corporation
#5 - 2011-11-10 03:07:25 UTC
Truth. And I would even extend this to include Low-Sec.

Along with this of course, some minor adjustments to the Directional Scanner (mainly not having to tap 'Scan' repeatedly.)

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Disfocate
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-11-10 03:07:34 UTC
Jodis Talvanen wrote:
Because it is how it should be.

In fact it doesn't make sense that some omnipotent CONCORD tracking device can detect your presence within a system and making it a metagaming device.

In fact it doesn't make sense for such a mechnism to exist in the lore.

In fact it doesn't make sense to have everyone know about your presence the moment you jump in unless of course you speak into it.

In fact like a real life radio system you won't know who is listening until they speak something on air. And even then you do not know how long he is going to be on air or when did he leave.

CCP please remove the local list and local count. The starmap statistics is MORE THAN ENOUGH for metagaming.



i support this product and or service.


If/when they remove local, I'll be sure to be providing lots of lolmails in recons and bombers for all!
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2011-11-10 03:08:14 UTC
It's already hard enough to find people in this game, please don't make it any harder to socialize with total strangers.

Nerfing local would do just that.

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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#8 - 2011-11-10 03:11:44 UTC
Krios Ahzek wrote:
It's already hard enough to find people in this game, please don't make it any harder to socialize with total strangers.

Nerfing local would do just that.


Depends how they do it.

1. When a ship cloaks, it gets removed from local.
2. When a ship cloaks, it is no longer able to see local. You can't see them, they can't see you.
3. When a ship uncloaks, have a delay in being able to fire a cyno off to prevent abuse of that mechanic. Possible Black Ops exception.

There you go.

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-11-10 03:11:56 UTC
the npc corp alts have spoken

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Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-11-10 03:15:57 UTC
In fact, I am speaking about removing local for ALL systems.


It will make EVE a true space game with a realistic communication system like a real life radio. And not like "a system is just another map/arena" metagame thing.


It will make Jita less lag because of the list of names getting loaded every time.



I never understood the reason to have it IN THE FIRST PLACE. (If anything it should AT LEAST be delayed like any channels that have too many users. It should not be a GODMODE TRACKING DEVICE everyone can access. It is making EVE less spacey and more like a stupid chat room.


Make it more realistic. Make it more like a radio system.


It doesn't even make sense in the lore. There is no godmode tracking device in every single system that will track every single ship in it. In fact if such function exists WOULDN'T ALL PIRATES BE DETECTED AND ELIMINATED ANYWAY? HOW DO THEY HIDE IN "UNDETECTABLE POCKETS OF SPACE"?



REMOVE LOCAL
Hershman
Creepers Corporation
#11 - 2011-11-10 03:16:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Hershman
Andski wrote:
the npc corp alts have spoken


Keep tellin yourself that Goonfleet

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Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-11-10 03:18:59 UTC
Krios Ahzek wrote:
It's already hard enough to find people in this game, please don't make it any harder to socialize with total strangers.

Nerfing local would do just that.

Because it is not hard to find people in this game, your post is invalid.
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-11-10 03:19:34 UTC
Andski wrote:
the npc corp alts have spoken

So?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-11-10 03:20:12 UTC
maybe you should post from your main

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-11-10 03:20:37 UTC
because removing local is a stupid ******* idea that will do nothing for the game

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Deryk Kyeld
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2011-11-10 03:21:01 UTC
Some people like to forget this is a game and not a living in space simulator.
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-11-10 03:22:16 UTC
Andski wrote:
because removing local is a stupid ******* idea that will do nothing for the game


Because you are a goon, your post is invalid.

It doesn't make sense anyway even if you're not a goon.

But the fact that you're a goon makes it worse.
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2011-11-10 03:23:14 UTC
Deryk Kyeld wrote:
Some people like to forget this is a game and not a living in space simulator.

This is a game of space, you are not making any point.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-11-10 03:23:36 UTC
Jodis Talvanen wrote:
Andski wrote:
because removing local is a stupid ******* idea that will do nothing for the game


Because you are a goon, your post is invalid.

It doesn't make sense anyway even if you're not a goon.

But the fact that you're a goon makes it worse.


because I am a goon, my opinion is more important than yours

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Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-11-10 03:24:01 UTC
Andski wrote:
maybe you should post from your main

I post from whatever I like, your post is irrelevant
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