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Dev blog: Insights into 2013 production and destruction

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2014-02-06 15:10:15 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
Destruction in EVE Online is an important thing - who doesn't like to blow up stuff? Equally important is also the production, because almost every item in EVE is originally produced by a player and without production we wouldn't have anything to destroy.

But how much was produced, how much destroyed?
Where are the big production centers, where is all the destruction going on?

CCP Quant from CCP's Research and Statistics department looked into this and has compiled a very interesting blog to answer these questions. As special bonus the underlying data of this blog has been also published for you to explore more.

Read all about the production and destruction in EVE Online in 2013 in CCP Quant's latest dev blog here.

Happy data crunching!

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Antoine Jordan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-02-06 15:28:47 UTC
This is awesome! However, the legend on the destruction graph has bubble size labeled as Produced Value - I assume that should be Destroyed Value?
Antoine Jordan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-02-06 15:32:12 UTC
somebody who's really good at this stuff should do a graphic where geography factors in! that way you can see which parts of the galaxy are busier.
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#4 - 2014-02-06 15:35:09 UTC
<3

Jita is basically its own game, and Osmon has more destruction, ISK-wise, than HED-GP.

Very interesting. Also interesting to note that there are some fairly major null sec industry systems. I wonder why they're not labeled? Pirate

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All Hail Boobies
#5 - 2014-02-06 15:36:18 UTC
That's a lot of ISK lost and produced.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-02-06 15:42:25 UTC
Dersen Lowery wrote:
<3

Jita is basically its own game, and Osmon has more destruction, ISK-wise, than HED-GP.

Very interesting. Also interesting to note that there are some fairly major null sec industry systems. I wonder why they're not labeled? Pirate


I think the important thing to note here is that this data completely refutes any claims that nulsec pvp'ers need high sec industry to keep going...

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Turelus
Utassi Security
#7 - 2014-02-06 15:42:50 UTC
Am I the only one who thinks it's sad that the NullSec production is so worthless?

Build your own space empire where you wont produce anything there... Cry

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#8 - 2014-02-06 15:44:32 UTC
Did someone say GRAPH P0RN!

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#9 - 2014-02-06 16:09:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Athena
Great plots!

About releasing the data for the production side: The DoD has struggled with this same issue, and came up with a solution: Drop information that is unneeded for analysis but would compromise security.

In this case the information to drop is the system name. Publish the data with all the low sec and null sec system names replaced with "low sec system #1, low sec system#2" and so on.

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Ambo
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#10 - 2014-02-06 16:10:21 UTC
*drool*
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-02-06 16:21:48 UTC
Needs more gra-.... wait a second.... WHAT IS THAT Shocked

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Batolemaeus
Mahlstrom
Northern Associates.
#12 - 2014-02-06 16:22:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Batolemaeus
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Dersen Lowery wrote:
<3

Jita is basically its own game, and Osmon has more destruction, ISK-wise, than HED-GP.

Very interesting. Also interesting to note that there are some fairly major null sec industry systems. I wonder why they're not labeled? Pirate


I think the important thing to note here is that this data completely refutes any claims that nulsec pvp'ers need high sec industry to keep going...


Eh...

Considering how utterly worthless 0.0 industry is, I completely rely on empire altcorps to keep going.

The graph does show just how terrible 0.0 industry is, though.

Turelus wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks it's sad that the NullSec production is so worthless?

Build your own space empire where you wont produce anything there... Cry


I'm still waiting for the industry expansion that was promised half a decade ago.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#13 - 2014-02-06 16:52:28 UTC
Cool read!

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#14 - 2014-02-06 17:34:08 UTC
Graph pr0n, best pr0n. Except, you know, real pr0n :)

+1 CCP Quant

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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-02-06 18:22:37 UTC
Awesome graphs, fascinating data. Thanks for publishing this.
Cecil Montague
PCG Enterprises
#16 - 2014-02-06 18:24:20 UTC
The destruction graph should be re-labled "You are not safe anywhere!" and made part of the New Player Experience.

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#17 - 2014-02-06 18:43:12 UTC
Bubble possitions are random ?

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#18 - 2014-02-06 18:53:50 UTC
Turelus wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks it's sad that the NullSec production is so worthless?

Build your own space empire where you wont produce anything there... Cry

Maby CCP needs nerf JF to the ground Lol

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scimichar
Deep Hole Explorers of New Eden
#19 - 2014-02-06 19:16:44 UTC
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No system names below 0.5 are shown in the production part :)


Not having a name for systems below 0.5 because they don't make much not really something to be smiling about. There should be large circles in low/null.
jonnykefka
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#20 - 2014-02-06 19:57:06 UTC
scimichar wrote:
Quote:
No system names below 0.5 are shown in the production part :)


Not having a name for systems below 0.5 because they don't make much not really something to be smiling about. There should be large circles in low/null.


Not an issue of size, but of security. "Oh, there's a big production ball in this particular system in Derilek! Gee, wonder what the Goons are up to there!" kind of thing. I suspect some WH industrialists would similarly not be pleased with having their J-sig outed.

But yes, the dominance of hisec production is mildly depressing.
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