Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Respectfully, I have specifically addressed this in my post. It's not a valid solution.

The solution is to lower the LP cost until is correctly represents the ship's usefulness.

However, you are somewhat missing the argument here. In fact we told you point blank that the Nestor was not fit for purpose or anywhere near value for money prior to its release.

What you actually did was rush a response to a very obvious and embarrassing flop in the market.

You did not listen.

Had you listened, the Nestor may well have been a success.

But entire fleets of missiles are fine, entire fleets of Artillery are fine, entire fleets of interceptors are fine.


What you mean to say is that the 0.0 player base is so incredibly bored with the craptastic wonder that is SOV warfare that we're willing to endure what you consider 'not good gameplay' because it makes the life sucking experience of 0.0 sov fights (you know, the ones that make you all your money in the news) remotely tolerable.

My next question would be if your player base does something, in mass, who are you to decide its not good game play? Perhaps taking a look at WHY something is done that way and fixing that instead will have a greater impact than just shoving your player bases face back in the pile of donkey **** that is Sov Warfare and telling them to deal with it.


The rest of your post is just self righteous garbage. You 100% do NOT listen to your player base, most changes that hit these forums are fairly set in stone regardless of player feedback. You ignored their statements about the Nestor, and look at that thing, your ship rebalancing has largely just been shuffling slots and bonuses with zero creativity at all and despite being told what won't work (by other people that know the game) you put in changes that you are told ahead of time by massive number of people will suck. The ESS is a joke, hated from day one. Instead of meaningful change to things like POS's and SOV that your players want we get deployable crap that clutters up the grid because entire fleets now drop mobile depot's during fights. Thanks for that. I could go on for days about what you were told wasn't going to work with HAC's and how that failure played out because of what you did to t1 cruisers.

In fact, the very best ship redo you've done is the inty, and in a non shocker the main idea for that one came from, wait for it, not you or your office but a player who wasn't on the CSM.

So go on and ride your calm high horse Rise but your design changes and ideas on balance are laughably poor. You and yours knew you were breaking damps and people didn't cry about the geddon being stronger, they outright TOLD you that you were breaking the Domi. That and the CFC (you know, half the CSM) has outright stated a public goal that they will use sentry fleets with the express purpose of you nerfing them (Its on just about every player site and this one) leads one to believe that you just typed that up because you were mad a player (you know what you used to be) pointed out the **** poor job at game balance you'd been doing.

Glad we have a Dev so easily manipulated by 1/2 of the games 0.0 player base that he would interfere directly in a war on their behalf.


So this is me outright telling you Kil2 that your player base already has figured out how we'll handle drone assign going forward, the fix was simplistic in nature, and that we'll keep coming up with new ways to afk the 0.0 game until you fix it because its garbage in the worst possible way

Because the balance team isn't actually interested in balance, especially when you're pointing out things they did wrong, they get all snippy and post a load of bullshit defending their retardation

This is the part where I go "HAHA your alliance is dying because you don't have Zagdul"

Go on. Let it sink in.

No clue who that is, But if we are dying.. at least we're not leaving a streak of Excuses Behind us in the process or systems lost.

But instead of giving reasonable feedback for this thread your complain that no one listens, and when they do they just post retardation. So instead of Being useful, your spout your own retardation into the thread and be about as useful as the same people you tear about. Legit.

yes we're too cowardly to field caps

Here's our suggestion:

Stop taking balance ques that are biased because you're taking them from one side of a war who's fighting another side of a war.

Stop taking balance ques from people who are crying about one thing being broken while abusing something else thats broken.

Read your own dev blogs and know that what you've just done is exasperated the situation for drones. What does this mean?

In the recent Dev Blog about HED, it was revealed that Drones make a lot of calls to the server. They constantly think about what to shoot, whats near them, where they're going, and all that. Thats when left to their own free will.

When you assist drones you set them to "passive" so they're not trying to figure out what to shoot on their own meaning they're not thinking about all that crap and they only shoot what their told when their told.

So in that way assisted drones are less of a drag on server resources than non assisted drones. Removing drone assist will actually have a degrading effect on server performance because now fewer people will assist them and more will just manually fire drones from a single button meaning that more drones will stay active. I mean if you think that people will stop using Domis because of drone assist needing a squad commander to bear the load then Ok but you're wrong. The net effect will be hostile logistics dealing with the alpha every 4 seconds from 25 dudes instead of one.

If anything you've now forced the player base into the nightmare situation that everybody was concerned with of multiple triggers.

The over all short sightedness of the balance team is shocking but I understand your inability to even broach that subject because your side 'won' the argument in the middle of a war but if you can't see whats coming next then you're blind.


So excuse me for not pointing out what tons of people have already pointed out, and for saying that once again the balance team will do something while ignoring feed back that will have consequences down the road that they could adjust now by leaving drone assist as is and just nerfing the ships like the Domi and Ishtar which they knew they were breaking when they broke them.

Hey guys, ignore the past 7 years of our existence, just focus on the past month