Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'd like to see this. Make it a munitions weapon wich costs a lot and possibly requires a special condition to do. By requiring a special condition, like a gantry or some other special structure, ppl can tell Alliance X is building an AoE DD bullet. Much like RL nuclear weapons.
By costing a lot it will directly or indirectly involve the work of a lot of players. Everytime somone shoots an AoE DD it takes a couple of weeks of work to reload it.
I wasn't playing EVE back when DD had AoE but I wonder why the hell it didn't required ammo.

P.S.: I know this post is off topic but meh. This is still F&I.

I do not mind a nerf. In fact, I believe that one was needed.

However, I don't feel that this is the right nerf, or at least not coupled with buffs/nerfs to other things to offset the now obvious worthlessness of the carrier, except for being a golfbag to move stuff around. It left drone assign subcapitals in a much stronger position. It is much easier to coordinate the sentries to a squad leader than have multiple asignees per squad.

Drone assign, it seems to me, was the only way for a small force to have a chance to fight against a larger one. Not necessarily because it was strong, finger of god, etc but because it countered the problem of the celestis. One fleet of Celestises (not sure the plural) could basically neutralize the dps one fleet of carriers. Those celestises remain in relative safety.

The only other force multiplier that allows a smaller entity to stand a chance against a larger number, as stated many times in this thread, its the bomber. This point is moot however, due to the low skillpoint requirement and said larger entities ability to field even larger number of this multiplier, than the smaller group. Due to this, a smaller force of subcapitals is almost guaranteed to lose against a larger force of subcapitals.

So basically, unless other buffs are given alongside the assist nerf, sov warfare is about numbers. I've seen many goon posters mention that you will have to use strategy to win now.

Tell me, what strategy can you use when the only one left is piling as many dudes into a fight as you can? I'd say the ability to field the slowcat was a strategy. Using one's larger pool of skillpoints to offset lack of numbers. Apparently not though.

CCP, if you want capital warfare to be a thing, and you want, as stated, carriers to be a counter to sub capitals. you need to look into buffing the fighter, and dealing with the celestis. They cannot be assigned like the sentry, so would not have the same issue. They can't track a subcap worth a damn and die when they get sneezed at. They are not affected by the drone tracking modules to my knowledge either. If you want a fight like B-R to happen again, you best look into it.

well yes untill they do somthing about deminishing returns on everyone shooting one person.. then yeah... all you have done is scaled the goon rifter blob to goon alpha mael blob to goon alpha dread blob...

nothing really have changed.

for me the most fun i have is in small scale pvp maybe 20 vs 20... that makes the game fun...

imagine if in a battle 2k vs 2k it was then devided that only 20 vs 20 would scale properly (that would mean you would have 100 different targets being called instead of just one or two) then the battle would be much more dynamic and fun... there would be more need for fc's and individual choices...

interesting question!

At the total i realy like this concept to go away from Sentrys!
- Less Lag
- More Stuff to do in fleets
- i don't must fly a potato(Dominix) anymore
- I don't have to replace Drones after each fleet like ammo
- Again more strategic Fleet fleet actions / movements (adust weapon range etc...)

But, i want to see a Player limit how much can assist and not a Drone Count.

BTW, read my earlier post.
This change has no direct impact on me, since I stopped running Incursions when the Marauders were wiped out.
And I gave up on mission drone boats last week with the end of use of the Omni.

But yeah, I am against the the size of the cap, since it will affect incursion runners, and is far too malicious an attack against many null sec and possibly wh playstyles.

On a completely relegated note, is the idea of having sentry drones return to bay still an consideration? So that way drone "waste" would not be left after the fight is over.

hehehehe, CCP bending over for goons yet again, WELL THAR'S a SURPRISE m8m8m8m8m8m8

LET THE PLEX MONEY FLOW LOLOLOLLOLOLOLO

dont think that's what he said. I beleive what he said was that goons have vastly superior numbers, and slowcats was the only platform that could allow a smaller entity to face them. Even slowcats where endangered species because goons where already adapting to them (damps, ecm, neuts, dreads, etc).

Put a 250 rail rokh fleet with 5 triage carriers facing 4 goon fleets. Let me know who murdered who.

Ok so the counter to not having any friends was not having to actually control your stuff in the game and in an MMO requiring social interaction that's viewed as a bad thing. I hope this explanation has pounded its way into your skull.

You haven't won the war, it isn't over yet. There was just a loss of a lot of shiny boats and we lose a region. Big f*cking deal!