Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Well thank God, heavens, lord almighty and Bob that you are not in CCP or the GM team. Cause you might actually singlehandedly wreck EVE with whatever other ideas you might have to "fix eve".

- But it's nice to see you agree now.

Guess you're unable tell us all why it's a great gameplay feature that someone can keep another player indefinately locked from playing the game, while all the time telling us it's needed for your ganks which evidently it is not needed for. Well go on evading the issue.

Bumping a freighter does not require a friend, ganking it ofcourse does but once the freighter is bumped, it can't get out without sacrificing said freighter or having a bunch of pilots lose sec status and ships.

So just stop blathering like a fool or answer the question: Is it a good thing that one player can lock another player from controlling his ship for indefinite time? Is this complete risk aversity something that fits the eve universe?

Edit: Amnzi, i'm not aggreeing with anything, i'm only saying that an answer that relates to freighters is required.

Yup, it's a 1-to-1 equation. The freighter might be rendered unusable, well there's 1 player devoting his full attention into making that ship unusable. "indefinitely locked from playing the game" is pretty much harassment and not allowed. Don't exaggerate the issue to try and back up your feeble viewpoints please.

In what world does one undock and is instantly bumped? You're invunerable for 5-10? seconds when you undock from ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYY station. Initiate an aligned instant undock. Holy jesus you're away.

Also, who the hell can bump you 200km instantly off the undock with a bump? What convoluted crazy hell are you making up in your mind?

I'm really irritated with you putting words in my mouth that were never spoken.

You're so one track minded that literally nobody but you will ever be right in any argument regardless of any logical answer given. It's perfectly Fine that one person can make an effort to block someone from going somewhere, cause that same person can in return do the same thing.

If you don't like the free will, q.q. and biomass. If you're irritated with other peoples intent, Fight them bro. If you want to complain so hard that this non-issue is brought to their attention JUST so they can tell you bumping is working as intended for you to then curse ccp and threaten to unsub without ever unsubbing and wallowing in your ****** quiet corner. By all means, go crazy.

You're not stupid, you're ignorant.

I didn't say there was a time limit you useless single-cellular minded organism.
I just told you - freighters can be webbed into warp and avoid being bumped. THAT was their chance at getting away.
So what - pointing someone in nullsec until downtime is an exploit because they can't get away? Any freighter being bumped had their shot at getting away and they dropped it.

Red Frog are cool about this and know how to avoid ganks. They hardly become targets and run one of the most famous business' in EVE.
Then there's these people who come from cookie-on-a-plate-for-you games, who don't have sufficient ingame knowledge to solve their issues and try to make CCP fix their "problems" for them.

THEN when the solution to their problem is explained to them they pout, cross their arms and exclaim things such as "unfairness" or put their fingers in their ears while exaggerating their difficulties to make the discussion completely pointless and mindnumbing till everyone just gives up, starts shitting the thread so that ISD/CCP come in and have to clean it up and/or lock the thread.
Give it a few weeks and another one will pop up, rinse & repeat.

All we can do is hope that CCP never listens to them.

umm i can just shoot who ever is pointing me in nullsec... can't do that in highsec, the bumpers not pointing remember? he's not aggressing, get it in your thick skull, gankers aggress and can be shot, bumpers can not be.

And stop being an imbecile with your whiny "web it web it webit", webbing isn't a natural mechanic, freighters can't be designed around same corp alts webbing them, that is imbalanced and poor design. It's as stupid as your inability to answer to my question still.

And like you said some posts ago, you are using bumping to force ransoms, so you are bumping said target forever until they pay. This is completely idiotic and has no counter to it. (webbing beforehand doesn't counter this as you're, you know, bumbed)

What you mean is that your NPC freighter pilot designed to avoid war decs, cannot be webbed without punishment. Shame that, but then NPC corps do have some disadvantages.

They have the same disadvantages, it's just a matter of degrees. But disadvantages are what they are and to gain the advantage of no war dec, you have gained the problem of no web without punishment.

Maybe it's time to start a player corp and use your freighter alts in that with webbers? Or is that far too much to ask?