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Returning to 'home' wormhole, reliably & often; How?

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Gallente Citizen 827473904522
S0 L337 1T HURTS
#1 - 2014-02-05 06:20:24 UTC
How does one repeatedly return to their same 'home' wormhole after leaving? Many here do industry in wormholes; PI with POCOS or other industry that requires supply trips from their origin 'home' Wormhole to Known-space and back again.

Say you leave your home wormhole to do a supply run; how do you get back to same wormhole? Assume original entrance/exit to Known Space is gone and a new entrance must be found.

My best guess is to always have an ALT inside the 'home' wormhole at all times, this ALT never leaves and is used to find new exits/entrances from that wormhole to Known Space for your main to use. So, getting "back in" -- returning to your home wormhole--must be done from the 'inside-out' (from inside wormhole, not outside-in). Right? Is this how it works? How else are you doing it?

And generally, must the home wormhole be what is termed as "static" for this to work reliably and often? What wormhole levels allows one to live like this (C1, C2, C3, C4, etc)?
Euthanasia Anneto
Embers Children
#2 - 2014-02-05 06:42:25 UTC
So much theories and facts available and still asking the question you already answered.

Why dont you join a established corp and learn from them or keep on reading before you're just another person asking "Need a way back to j123456"

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Winthorp
#3 - 2014-02-05 07:11:31 UTC
I feel you should at the very least start reading some WH guides (So many appear when you use this Google thingy) before asking even the most basic of questions.
Gallente Citizen 827473904522
S0 L337 1T HURTS
#4 - 2014-02-05 07:57:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Gallente Citizen 827473904522
The question isn't "how to enter a wormhole help me I'm new and never thought to use search first". The question is asking, specifically: how to reliably find entrances back to the same "home" wormhole system you've set-up shop in--from known space, and does the method change if home wormhole system is a C1 or say, C6?

Most interested in hearing insight from industry wormholers who do this regularly.
Winthorp
#5 - 2014-02-05 08:06:12 UTC
Gallente Citizen 827473904522 wrote:
Most interested in hearing insight from industry wormholers who do this regularly.


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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#6 - 2014-02-05 08:45:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Erica Dusette
Quite simple really, there's no secrets or really any interesting methods at all.

I'm not into industry but I still leave my wormhole(s) daily for stuff. 9 times out of 10 the same exit is there when I return, because I'd be kinda silly (or in a desperate situation) to make a trip out when collapse is imminent. When our exits do collapse the new one is generally found within a few minutes by someone who's online (either from my own corp or a friendly neighbor's) and so finding the way back isn't a problem at all. All residents in our systems use a combined intel channel, so it's just a matter of asking "where's the new exit guys?".

In the rare event I'm the only person online then I'd just log in any of around a dozen alts and have them scan me a way home.

TL:DR - Corpmates, friends or alts will let me know where the new entry is.

/shrug

Edit: And sure, a system with a static highsec will be easier to find your way to than a C6, for instance, because you may have numerous systems to travel through in your chain to highsec. But same principle really, just more scanning.

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Random Woman
Very Professional Corporation
#7 - 2014-02-05 08:59:08 UTC
Like every good industrialist you have loads of alts, that Tritanium Taskforce needs to get rolling somehow after all.

Now you warp your Rorqual and your 7 hulks into the belt (Sun at 0 works too, but you might need 49 Hulks then, as the Veldspar forces are not that strong at the sun) and light a cyno with every ship. It has to be 7 Hulks, because thats the divine number (or 7*7=49 , 7*7*7=343 and so on).

Now the Veldspar forces will syncronize with your rorqual and you are able to jumplone to it, even though its inside a WH.

Thats how you get your industrial chars back into a WH.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#8 - 2014-02-05 15:02:27 UTC
I use a lot of red rope. Very reliable.
HTC NecoSino
Suddenly Carebears
Verlate
#9 - 2014-02-05 17:26:25 UTC
Gallente Citizen 827473904522 wrote:
The question isn't "how to enter a wormhole help me I'm new and never thought to use search first". The question is asking, specifically: how to reliably find entrances back to the same "home" wormhole system you've set-up shop in--from known space, and does the method change if home wormhole system is a C1 or say, C6?

Most interested in hearing insight from industry wormholers who do this regularly.


You don't (usually) scan in. You have someone else scan out and share the route with you. Derp
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-02-05 20:29:28 UTC
The OP is indeed looking at this problem backwards. Scanning *into* a specific J-system is very difficult (I've been on two chain-collapse ops so far in C5 space: one was insanely lucky/blessed by Bob, the other was a multi-day marathon that took us through roughly half of C5 space before our target inadvertently opened their static into us!); however, having someone (corpmate, alt, ...) probe out the exit from inside and give you the bookmarks is quite easy, if not trivial.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-02-05 21:14:10 UTC
dont live in a wh with only 1 toon.

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Heretic Army
Sedition.
#12 - 2014-02-05 21:47:42 UTC
Gallente Citizen 827473904522 wrote:
The question isn't "how to enter a wormhole help me I'm new and never thought to use search first". The question is asking, specifically: how to reliably find entrances back to the same "home" wormhole system you've set-up shop in--from known space, and does the method change if home wormhole system is a C1 or say, C6?

Most interested in hearing insight from industry wormholers who do this regularly.



I didn't really care to read past everyone trolling you for your question so I am not sure if anyone answered.

Basically you bookmark the route out, make sure those holes aren't end of life, or critical, and then you leave, and come back the same way through the bookmarks.

Most people who are in WH corps, that are set up in a WH do not stay out of their hole long. They do a supply run, then head directly back in. Someone should always keep an alt in the hole able to scan in case you all get locked out at the same time.


So basically, make sure your route out of the hole isn't going to collapse, and come back in the same way you left.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-02-06 16:33:27 UTC
Always leave someone inside that can scan the new route in. I have an alt logged off and unsubbed in my wh so that even if the worst happens, and all my other chars are podded out, I can still find my way back... I'll always find my way back... back.. always.

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Kasife Vynneve
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-02-07 20:01:26 UTC
Lloyd Roses wrote:
I use a lot of red rope. Very reliable.


Looks at the coils and coils of red rope in the hold and thinks maybe I should have left that there.
Rin Valador
Professional Amateurs
#15 - 2014-02-08 14:58:02 UTC
According to my brother CptBipto he follows breadcrumbs back to "the office" every time he leaves.

Not entirely sure what he means.

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Carlos Agathon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-02-11 11:55:12 UTC
If you decide to go out to sell your PI, you should always come right back. If the connection is already eol (This wormhole is reaching the end of its natural lifetime), which means it has less than 4 hours remaining before it collapses. You might want to wait and get your stuff out through the next one that spawns.
And you should always have a scanning toon logged off in there, if possible it should be in the same corp as the hauling toon. Just scan down the new exit, make a Corp bookmark and you're good.
Simply coming right back in after you sell your PI-stuff means you're good 90% of the time though.

You must be new, so welcome to wh space.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#17 - 2014-02-11 18:23:52 UTC
the biggest issue I saw was you said "scanning ALT" as in singular, rather than plural.

My big question was never about just getting back, but specifically how the heck to get c5/c6 invasion forces back, with dreads/triage in tow.

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Carlos Agathon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-02-14 11:57:07 UTC
Batelle wrote:
the biggest issue I saw was you said "scanning ALT" as in singular, rather than plural.



One can never have enough scanning alts logged off in your wormhole.
McMine148
Lambda Initiative
#19 - 2014-02-14 20:21:09 UTC
You won't get to your home wormhole with only 1 char, scanning alts as stated above, and usually be prepared to change route while you are on the way there to a better one...
One time I had to go back to my wormhole, and the only way was a nullsec system in Branch... the route was so screwed, but I had to go there or we would be in a bad situation due to hostility from other people... so I just went for it, 28 0.0 jumps, with a nullified cloaky T3, was a pain, but in mid-path we got a new highsec poped into our static so I just backed off and went through the highsec.