EVE New Citizens Q&A

He gets what he deserves? Man ... you've got issues bro. Like I said, this thread has a serious lack of empathy.

To the OP, if you're still here. Try to think of EVE as a reflection of real life, because in lots of ways, that is what EVE is. It's a freakin dog eat dog world, and throwing your hands up in the air shouting 'That ain't fair' won't get you anything. The strong take, the weak loose and complain.

If you only remember one thing out of all this, it has to be this. Do not complain, do not *****, and never do it on an EVE forum. Adapt, grow and overcome.

Like I said in a previous post, I made the exact mistake you did. I thought I'd pop all the baddies and get me some loot in the process. Lost my best ship, best weapons, ammunition. My first reaction was like yours, what the bloody **** is this. Why would a game do this to a subscriber (trialist). Are they ******* stupid?

Then I remembered, I've played WOW for 7 years. WOW made me lazy. Embarrasing lazy. Shamefully lazy. I died in a goddamn tutorial because I was to stupid and lazy to read the mission text ...

Anger -> Insight -> Shame -> Overcome -> Grown

This is how it is supposed to be.

So if you're stll here, get it together, man up, write down the names of the haters here, and start planning payback. It might never happen, but who knows? This is EVE afterall ...

I havn't been playing very long at all to be honest, my first dumb mistake was flying through rancer in my capsule and losing my +3 implants
The pilot of the smartbombing battleship that made the kill though was a very pleasent fella to chat with so its all good :)

My first "big score" really was tackling an excumer then lying to the pilot about a tornado coming to assist me, 75m isk later i let him go, would have taken about a year for my slasher to destroy a mackinaw.

I'm no vet by any means, still in my first month or so.

I had no problem with the tutorials at all, I thought they were....

A/ Very easy (loved the freebies).
B/ Quite Intuitive and easy to follow.
C/ Did a very good job of introducing the basics.

Funny how different people can do the exact same thing and arrive at completely different conclusions about that thing.

A. Its nearly 11 years since official release.

B. If you look at the forums. There is another thread about a newbie losing his probing ship during the tutorials. Same people who posted here also posted there with constructive and helpful advice. Why...because the attitude of that new player was completely different then this one. That newbie wanted to learn, listened and took on advice give from other more experiant people.

C. We arent biased. All in all EVE is 10 times easier then when I started and the tutorials are 20 times better then they are back then..

People should realize that their responses are making an impression on lots of new players, not just the OP. Actually, I'm surprised CODE isn't making special donations to the OP. His tears would surely be famous on their site someday.


To the OP: Glad you felt better about the loss of the ship the next day. I think that's typical. It's almost better to get a ship blown up ASAP. Kind of like getting your first scratch on a new car. Then you don't have to worry about it so much.

I also understand your point about the mission write-ups. It's considered cheating in a lot of games. You can avoid the notes, but you'll lose a lot more ships. In Eve, a lot of players make their isk running missions, so they can make isk a lot faster by knowing the mission details.

Finally the learning curve is not easy -- but it's one of the things that makes the game so rewarding for such a long period of time.

He put in way too much effort for that.

See! This forum is full of New Bro's who get EVE.

Have a +1 from me sir. That attitude is all you need to make New Eden a home.

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Op I feel for you. I remember the first time I did a lvl 4. No one told me that the NPc could scram. Then there was my very first bc - took it unfit into lowsec. Oh and the first time I looked at the ship scanner and said what are these anomalies wrapped to it to check it out and was suddenly blopped from the sky. Every player has been there and every player knows that the new player experience is fairly subpar. But the truth about eve is that none of the real fun in the game comes spoonfed from the dev. In fact eve as a pve game is pretty much crap. What keeps people coming to eve is the meta game - the interactions between players - which you can only really learn and experience from other players. So IMO skip going it on your own and forget the tutorials and join a newbie corp such as eve uni. You will have a better experience for it.

It's considerably easier than it used to be, a lot of us started when the NPE consisted of "here's your ship, there's an NPC, try not to die", also known as "here's a Rubiks Cube, commit a physically impossible sexual act with yourself". Aura used to insult you when you exploded too, happy days.

wow that mission is so easy, you don't have to fight anything, read the mission notes, fly there confirm them dead report back

really if you cant handle a tutorial mission, take a break rethink this game