EVE New Citizens Q&A

So I've been playing the game, and I've been enjoying it for the most part. The user interface is probably one of the most cluster****ed and downright unintuitive I've ever used, and the fact I have to constantly use google screams the developers really didn't put much thought into accessibility for new players, but I digress.

I've been mining whilst doing the tutorial missions, and have a nice few ships I've been getting to know and getting fitted appropriately.

Then I try a mission where I have to escort a ship of civilians. I go there, they are all dead and out of nowhere a group of enemies start pounding the crap out of me. Ok, I guess I've got to destroy them.

No. My capacitor runs out in seconds trying to repair my shields and hull whilst I scramble trying to figure out why my weapon systems aren't doing anything. Oh, because I have absolutely no chance of destroying these things at all. I'm in a tutorial mission and I'm being attacked by things I have absolutely no chance against. The one line in the mission briefing that alluded to this was...

'If anything seems amiss report back to station'

8 words out of 100 that hint at what the mission is going to go like. When I realised I was in an unwinnable situation I attempted to warp back to my station, getting destroyed in the painfully slow process of warming up my warp engines.

Needless to say I was pissed. A tutorial mission that pits you against people you have no chance of beating. The entire mission consisted of going to a place, and then running away from it. WTF kind of tutorial is that?

So now I'm down my best ship, best modifications and my best weapons and all my ammo. All because of a terrible tutorial
mission. Needless to say It's somewhat taken a large chunk out of my interest in the game.

I have nearly 5 million credits, but I'll be spending most of that trying to refit a new ship, so I've literally just wasted the first few days of my trial. TBH I just can't be bothered trying to earn that kinda stuff back at this early stage, so I think I'm out.

/rant.

If you get that buttmad over a tutorial mission ship loss worth a couple million ISK, its probably a good thing that you take a breather. I wouldn't want you to have a heart attack when you lose an 80 billion ISK titan by jumping instead of bridging.

I get that you'd get mad, people used to handholding often are, but I don't really see a problem and it seems to me you learned a valuable lesson from this. You'll encounter no win scenarios in the game on a constant basis and you need to recognize them and act on them immediately. This time you got a written hint from the game and you missed it. Outside the tutorials others will do their utmost to hide the fact the hammer is about to land on you. Either learn to pay attention or get used to bad things happening to you.

PS. The loss is nothing. You can just repeat the tutorials and get the same crap for free, so the loss really is minimal at best. It's in fact so small, that no one will bother repeating them for the equipment. It's just not worth anyones time. The only reason you might think otherwise is, that you're still doing the tutorials.

Did you miss the part where it was said that you can get all that stuff again for free?

Edit:

And on that note, there IS a mission that REQUIRES you to suicide your ship.

Most EvE players Google a mission before they do it, and learn the relevant information.
Is that Ideal? No. Should you have to? No. Do you have to? Pretty much.

www.eve-survival.com will save your bacon a few times.

Loosing the ship is really a learning something in EVE. You just have to accept that sometimes thing go wrong and you loose what ever it is you are flying.

First rule of EVE: NEVER undock in anything you are not prepared to loose. EVER!

The thing is, I already knew that, but thanks anyway :D

Also, the idea that mission runners google the missions before they do them is just ludicrous imo. WTF is the point in that? It's like people who buy guides for their new games. If that really is the norm then I have a feeling the missions are going to irritate me amazingly, because reading a walkthrough before I've even attempted a mission is just something I'm not capable of doing whilst still trying to have fun. To not hold your hand is one thing, to require you to read a walkthrough in preperation is something else.

Thanks to those who actually had something substantial to say/advise. To those pretentious snobs that didn't, thanks anyway :)

That is a normal thing. You will be facing Angels one mission, Sanshas Nation the next, and drones the next. If you tank explosive, and then take 70% EM damage, you are going to get whelped. This isn't like WoW, where you can fail 20 times, the go to thottbot, repair your armour and try again. When you die, you will lose you ship. And it won't be a ship that you can have replaced for free.

That's how EvE is. Improvise, adapt, and overcome. Don't rage on the forums because you didn't read the mission description carefully enough, or refused to look up the mission beforehand.

While I get where you are coming from, I am just trying to be frank with you. Losing ships is part of EvE. Did you learn a lesson from this one? Yes. Did it cost you anything? No. If you didn't lose this ship, then lost a 300 million ISK battleship because you hadn't been trained to read the mission carefully, you would be a lot more pissed.

In this case, the tutorial did EXACTLY what it was supposed to do.

It taught you that dying HURTS in EVE and since you're in the tutorial where you get free ships, mods and isk that's the best place to learn that, right away. What if you hadn't and you'd get to a lvl 3 mission in your new battlecruiser you worked so hard for to buy and fit and THEN you'd run into this issue?

It might also teach you that setbacks are part of the game, might as well get used to them. OR it might teach you that EVE is not for you.

An EVE tutorial.

There are missions like that. Go, scout and come back. Not all missions are combat missions, that's why you should always read the mission description. Googling helps, but everything you needed to know was already in the description.

And it is a good tutorial - it taught you to get the **** out if you are in structure and outmatched. Yes, you lost your 'best ship' and it's enraging. But two month from now, when you escape with a ship a hundred times as expensive because you remember this lesson, you will be thankful for it.

There's a tutorial mission that actually says your ship will be blown to bits, do not fit expensive stuff or attempt to do it in an expensive ship.

I know for sure, because I did the same mistake you did 3 weeks ago when I started :-)

So basically, it's a case of RTFQ.
I think that mission is to get you used to the idea that you will loose ships on occasion. A bit brutal in its attempt, but sure damn effective :-)