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Goldennuggets

Bath Salt Abusers

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#21 - 2014-02-05 12:27:06 UTC | Edited by: Goldennuggets

Mike Whiite wrote:

how long can you run that?

You might want to replace a shield boost amplifier with a cap battery.

on a personal note I don't think it's worth a CNR when using T1 modules

it runs more than long enough to activate the MJD to stop taking damage and recharge all shields. by the time theyd catch up to start doing real damage, theyre all dead or the MJD + cap has recharged. i've found the MJD is the only tank i need for most missions. what would you suggest other than the CNR? i'm currently training for t2 but doing lvl 4s slower for 30+ days seems better than nothing.

unidenify

Deaf Armada

Likes received: 201

#22 - 2014-02-05 14:50:25 UTC | Edited by: unidenify

[Scorpion Navy Issue, L4 Mission ship]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
[empty med slot]

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Salvager I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II

Hornet II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Acolyte II x5

This is my fit for my SNI for fool around L4 mission.
in this case, it is mission specific hardener against Guristas which is common to me.

It tank about 1,221 with Level 5 Skills Char for nearly 4 min (3 min and 51 sec)

for empty mid slot, I yet to decide what to do with it, Can be MJD, AB, or something else. I am still not sure.

For Salvager on high slot, I use MTU to pull wreck then salvage it. While not fast as Destroyer with 4-4 salvager/tractor, it will add extra isk without add additional time on your mission.

B/w you can always use T2 XL SB and put Cap booster in empty med slot. I use Gist because it is pretty effective for HP per cap cost.

Mike Whiite

Deep Core Mining Inc.

Caldari State

Likes received: 398

#23 - 2014-02-05 15:17:26 UTC

Goldennuggets wrote:

Mike Whiite wrote:

how long can you run that?

You might want to replace a shield boost amplifier with a cap battery.

on a personal note I don't think it's worth a CNR when using T1 modules

I understand from this you're tactic is to keep jumping out of the rats range, which is a solid tactic, thouhg it will use up quite some time, nothing wrong with that especialy with low skills, I was more thinking in the line of the MJD being a last resort.

What I meant is that the CNR bonuses shine more with T2 ammo, fury's in particulair, but you'll probbably going to get trouble fitting it all.

this is what I use now and then, mind I've max all missile support skills and almost all fitting skills

[Scorpion Navy Issue,]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Invunrabilaty field II
mission specific hardner II
Republic fleet Targets Painter
Republic fleet Targets Painter
Large Cap Booster II
Mn100 AB II/ MJD (mission specific)

Cruise Missile Launcher II,
Cruise Missile Launcher II,
Cruise Missile Launcher II,
Cruise Missile Launcher II,
Cruise Missile Launcher II,
Cruise Missile Launcher II,
Drone link Augmentor I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Flare

5x Hobgoblinn II
5x Hammerhead II

Ammo Mission specific Furies, T1 and Faction.

Desivo Delta Visseroff

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 292

#24 - 2014-02-05 19:18:32 UTC

Here you go. Passive tanked to survive all but the hardest L4's, with over 500 DPS. If you don't have the the isk, just go for the techII resists instead.

[Scorpion Navy Issue, L4 SNI]

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Gistum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Gistum C-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Target Painter II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Combat Scanner Probe I

Large Core Defense Field Purger II
Large Core Defense Field Purger II
Large Core Defense Field Purger II

Vespa EC-600 x5
Hobgoblin II x5

I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses[:|]..............[:=d]

Caleidascope

Republic Military School

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 606

#25 - 2014-02-05 19:22:27 UTC

Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:

lol

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!


unidenify Deaf Armada Likes received: 201	#26 - 2014-02-05 19:44:35 UTC Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote: Here you go. Passive tanked to survive all but the hardest L4's, with over 500 DPS. If you don't have the the isk, just go for the techII resists instead. [Scorpion Navy Issue, L4 SNI] Not sure if troll or serious but why Probe, and why carry ECM drone

Desivo Delta Visseroff

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 292

#27 - 2014-02-05 19:58:05 UTC

unidenify wrote:

Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:

Here you go. Passive tanked to survive all but the hardest L4's, with over 500 DPS. If you don't have the the isk, just go for the techII resists instead.

[Scorpion Navy Issue, L4 SNI]

Not sure if troll or serious

but why Probe, and why carry ECM drone

Not a troll. I always fit an expanded launcher to all my Battleships. If I didn't have the CPU, I would just off-line it till needed.

Why? Well sometimes you want to run a L4. Other times you want to invade someone else's L4 and ruin their day. Hence the expanded launcher and the ECM drones.

I may not make the maxed isk per second that some mission grinders shoot for, but I have the creativity to make my mission days fun Pirate

I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses[:|]..............[:=d]

John Ratcliffe

Tradors'R'us

IChooseYou Alliance

Likes received: 293

#28 - 2014-02-06 11:53:05 UTC | Edited by: John Ratcliffe

Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:

Here you go. Passive tanked to survive all but the hardest L4's, with over 500 DPS. If you don't have the the isk, just go for the techII resists instead.

[Scorpion Navy Issue, L4 SNI]

That fit is ******* awful TBH. Also, I really don't understand why people get such a hard on for MJD - they suck balls IMHO. Just fit an AB for travel to gates and man up.

The following fit is all T1/T2, costs around 800 Mil fully fitted and does 1110 DPS. If you want to faction the BCUs it'll do more. Faction the Omni and the Gardes/Bouncers/Wardens will apply the DPS better.

[Scorpion Navy Issue, PVE - Non-Gay]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Large Shield Booster II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
100MN Afterburner II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Garde II x3

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

IIshira

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

Likes received: 1,332

#29 - 2014-02-06 13:31:44 UTC

John Ratcliffe wrote:

Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:

Here you go. Passive tanked to survive all but the hardest L4's, with over 500 DPS. If you don't have the the isk, just go for the techII resists instead.

[Scorpion Navy Issue, L4 SNI]

Not a bad fit but it misses a few of the OP's requirements

He's a low skill pilot so I don't think he has skill for T2 launchers or T2 sentry drones,

Of course he could go with the same setup T1 and still get 755 DPS.... but since the drone bay is full of sentry drones he has no light drones... You might get away without light drones if you have precision missiles and target painters but for the OP I wouldn't recommend it with his skills.

John Ratcliffe

Tradors'R'us

IChooseYou Alliance

Likes received: 293

#30 - 2014-02-06 13:42:15 UTC

IIshira wrote:

He can swap the T2 Sentries for T1 Sentries if he wishes to use Sentries and hasn't the T2 skills. Otherwise he can use a flight of Hobs, or a mixture of T1 Heavies, T1 Mediums and a T1 Scout.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

IIshira

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

Likes received: 1,332

#31 - 2014-02-06 13:49:21 UTC

Goldennuggets wrote:

well heres the end result. extra targeting range was better than a 3rd field. might have to switch power diagnostic with a coprocessor once i get t2 launchers. when my shield tank skills are a lot higher, i'll probly end up switching a shield boost amp with a target painter and see if it really makes a difference with frigs/cruisers that get too close. thanks for the help Lol

[Raven Navy Issue, 2]

(Cut post for size)

Looks good. I would get T2 drones soon... If you mess up the jump the reactivation delay is a few minutes. I've had missions put out higher than normal DPS where I had to get out and T2 Hobgoblins saved my bacon.

IIshira

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

Likes received: 1,332

#32 - 2014-02-06 14:07:43 UTC

John Ratcliffe wrote:

IIshira wrote:

He can swap the T2 Sentries for T1 Sentries if he wishes to use Sentries and hasn't the T2 skills. Otherwise he can use a flight of Hobs, or a mixture of T1 Heavies, T1 Mediums and a T1 Scout.

The fit looks good but I don't think he has the skills to "man up" LOL... I used to tell pilots not to fly a BS till they get proper skills but they're going to do it anyways so I try to steer them in the right direction. Hopefully they're smart enough to insure their ships Big smile

People like MJD's for two reasons. The first is they allow you to minimize incoming damage by keeping range and the second is you can get out even while scrammed.... This is if you're MJD cooldown has finished of course.

I'll agree MJD's on a T1 battleship are kind of annoying because of the reactivation delay. I've had to wait at a mission gate with my MJD Dominix because I didn't want to go in taking aggro while waiting on the cooldown.

unidenify

Deaf Armada

Likes received: 201

#33 - 2014-02-06 14:46:38 UTC | Edited by: unidenify

IIshira wrote:

http://o.smium.org/loadout/4835

Basic requirement in my opinion.

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