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The Post-Oxytopes World

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#61 - 2011-11-12 20:43:31 UTC
what has been done is to take one of the most commonly used items in eve and triple the value (so far), eliminating the viability of an entire race of pos and robbing anyone who uses an entire race of capital ships for untold billions

and has the potential to basically empty jita of oxytopes unless the current market thinning thread reverses dramatically

this is a market manipulation of such unprecedented size and scope a new word will have to be created for it: a market manipulation is when you take a minor market and move it 10% for a short time

this is to market manipulation as fat man is to a grenade

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Callduron
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#62 - 2011-11-12 21:00:06 UTC
Market mittanpulation perhaps?

Still it only counts if you stick with it.

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I post on reddit as /u/callduron.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2011-11-12 21:05:32 UTC
i think the 'goons won't follow through' train sailed somewhere before week 5 of constant interdiction

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2011-11-12 21:51:27 UTC
I'd just like to point out how hilarious it is to watch people sell oxytopes at 100 below the first old sell order. Apparently lots of pubbies don't understand the fact that it will sell, and selling 2m units at a 100 isk surcharge is basically just scamming themselves out of 200m isk.

Oh well, thanks guys.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#65 - 2011-11-12 21:53:36 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
I'd just like to point out how hilarious it is to watch people sell oxytopes at 100 below the first old sell order. Apparently lots of pubbies don't understand the fact that it will sell, and selling 2m units at a 100 isk surcharge is basically just scamming themselves out of 200m isk.

Oh well, thanks guys.

This happens in many markets. Build a spreadsheet. Earn iskies....

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#66 - 2011-11-12 22:42:20 UTC  |  Edited by: JitaJane
never mind starve a troll....

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#67 - 2011-11-12 22:54:10 UTC
but seriously that was the most ******** thing posted in this thread so far go sit in the corner with your dunce cap

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
tengen san
Triton-TC
#68 - 2011-11-12 23:24:11 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
what has been done is to take one of the most commonly used items in eve and triple the value (so far), eliminating the viability of an entire race of pos and robbing anyone who uses an entire race of capital ships for untold billions

and has the potential to basically empty jita of oxytopes unless the current market thinning thread reverses dramatically

this is a market manipulation of such unprecedented size and scope a new word will have to be created for it: a market manipulation is when you take a minor market and move it 10% for a short time

this is to market manipulation as fat man is to a grenade



The size of your flaunting in self adulation takes on comic porpotions, outclassing the operation itself. Lol
tengen san
Triton-TC
#69 - 2011-11-12 23:36:20 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
I'm not sure what I enjoy more, making thousands of industrialists suffer, making thousands of miners suffer, or watching the pseudointellectuals in MD bleat about how nothing we're doing is having an impact.

Carry on!



Doubles adorable from first glance in preparation and execution, but seemingly halfhearted in the full exhaustion of its potential. But let’s see if the new project H5 will catch up on it or , again, comes short and miss the greater target.

Anyway, player added content is always the spice in the soup. Blink
Zendon Taredi
Tier Four Technologies
#70 - 2011-11-12 23:40:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Zendon Taredi
back for more gloating, are we? is this all the damage the goons can do? semi-curb one item of thousands?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2011-11-12 23:51:44 UTC
Zendon Taredi wrote:
back for more gloating, are we? is this all the damage the goons can do? semi-curb one item of thousands?

You know full well that this has a knock-on effect on more than just a single item.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
tengen san
Triton-TC
#72 - 2011-11-13 00:23:47 UTC  |  Edited by: tengen san
It certainly does but Iam still not convinced there is a lasting effect! The OI price jumps are caused by a hype, taking in account the operation cut off a mere 6,5% -7,5% of the available resource, the laws of the market allows only a solid shortage a lasting sustainability on a risen price level.

Hype always will be what it is, a hype as it has no solid background. Take it as given the drones get stripped from their alloy, a real existing shortage comes in function, justify any skyrocketing of Ore/Min prices. The OI shortage is only real where buyers hold back their stocks but not in the nature of a resource shortage.
jm24
CRICE Corp
#73 - 2011-11-13 00:39:48 UTC
Oxygen Isotopes updated price target: 1500-2000 within 3 days.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2011-11-13 00:41:35 UTC
So, I take it you're still believing that this is just a bubble, then, and that it isn't spiraling out of control now/very, very soon?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
tengen san
Triton-TC
#75 - 2011-11-13 01:10:50 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
................ and that it isn't spiraling out of control now/very, very soon?


You just proof my words right,...then.


Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2011-11-13 01:36:57 UTC
Take a look around, then. Look at all the smaller market hubs, then look at Jita. Pray tell, does that look like a healthy market to you, one that's going to correct itself soon?

Keep in mind that less than 5 days ago, the prices were at 900. The only reason it's at 1250 right now instead of 1300 or 1330, is because someone is either desperately want to stave off the price takeoff, they're desperate to sell, or it's a badly setup bot.

I don't really care which, it'll disappear soon enough.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
DetKhord Saisio
Seniors Clan
#77 - 2011-11-13 01:39:36 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
what has been done is to take one of the most commonly used items in eve and triple the value (so far), eliminating the viability of an entire race of pos and robbing anyone who uses an entire race of capital ships for untold billions

and has the potential to basically empty jita of oxytopes unless the current market thinning thread reverses dramatically

this is a market manipulation of such unprecedented size and scope a new word will have to be created for it: a market manipulation is when you take a minor market and move it 10% for a short time

this is to market manipulation as fat man is to a grenade


My good man, I believe the word you are looking for is embargo. Though not sure a Jita Embargo is appropriate since there is no physical blockade of any sorts. The well has gone dry... or more realistically, the bucket no longer holds water.

Another metaphor is the monkey in the cage with an electrified banana. Over time, added subjects to the cage try to get the banana and every cage occupant is shocked. The learned behavior is any new occupants reaching for the banana are beat to death by the old occupants. Not exactly a scientific study, but somehow the monkeys have turned on one another. Interesting how that works.
Lexmana
#78 - 2011-11-13 09:25:35 UTC
So yesterday was the first day with zero transactions in Jita. Impressive. Was this is just a shock reaction or a sign of weakness?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#79 - 2011-11-13 09:27:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcanis
tengen san wrote:
It certainly does but Iam still not convinced there is a lasting effect! The OI price jumps are caused by a hype, taking in account the operation cut of a mere 6,5% -7,5% of the available recourse, the laws of the market allows only a solid shortage a lasting sustainability on a risen price level.

Hype always will be what it is, a hype as it has no solid background. Take it as given the drones get stripped from their alloy, a real existing shortage comes in function, justify any skyrocketing of Ore/Min prices. The OI shortage is only real where buyers hold back their stocks but not in the nature of a resource shortage.




I presume that you've cashed in all but a bare operating minimum of your stock, knowing that a price crash is immenent?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#80 - 2011-11-13 09:38:19 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
So yesterday was the first day with zero transactions in Jita. Impressive. Was this is just a shock reaction or a sign of weakness?

Or was it... ehm... why bother.

Nyan