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The Post-Oxytopes World

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#201 - 2011-11-19 13:45:09 UTC
I don't know what thread branch you thought I was referring to, but the thread branch I was referring to was:
JitaJane wrote:
This thing still here? Take note the economic repercussions were so dire that nobody in MD bothered to notice it until some goon put up a thread to stroke to with his fellow goons. Pretty sure this encapsulates the total effect. Troll on you crazy diamonds....


I'll let you continue to argue the pedantry branch if you absolutely want. vOv

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

RAW23
#202 - 2011-11-19 14:27:04 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
I don't know what thread branch you thought I was referring to, but the thread branch I was referring to was:
JitaJane wrote:
This thing still here? Take note the economic repercussions were so dire that nobody in MD bothered to notice it until some goon put up a thread to stroke to with his fellow goons. Pretty sure this encapsulates the total effect. Troll on you crazy diamonds....


I'll let you continue to argue the pedantry branch if you absolutely want. vOv


I'm not sure whether or not you are addressing this to me. You don't seem to be very good at indicating what subject you are talking about.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#203 - 2011-11-19 14:39:46 UTC
I'm sorry you're not good at reading context. It must make posting on forums very difficult.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#204 - 2011-11-19 17:05:06 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
I'm sorry you're not good at reading context. It must make posting on forums very difficult.


Laborious, at the very least.
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#205 - 2011-11-19 18:10:04 UTC
Akita T wrote:
Wake me up when Blue Ice goes up to about 700k per block and oxytopes are over 2300-ish ISK per.
That's when I'll know the Goons managed to do their job.

So, I kinda' kept sleeping and nobody woke me up, then I got bored.

Logged in, let's see...
Blue Ice -> almost managed to break 600k, which is still not quite 700k, then all that traded today was a measly 250k
Oxygen Isotopes -> temporarily losing momentum on their third (second large) climb, peaked at around 1400, not quite 2300-ish yet either.

jm24, 6 days ago wrote:
Oxygen Isotopes updated price target: 1500-2000 within 3 days.

Hmm... come on guys, you can still do it !
Maybe after another 2 months of interdiction you can finally break through that 2k ceiling and have it stabilize above it.
That, or, you know, just buy another couple of billion units from whoever still has some and is willing to sell for less than 2k ?

Twisted
Jessica Cartier
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#206 - 2011-11-19 20:16:07 UTC
So, what's going on? The interdiction seems to be stumbling. Yesterday, ice miners were all over Gallente ice fields in Everyshore. I checked 6 systems, and only saw one GoonWaffe pilot - and the miners in that system returned in force shortly after he docked up after his kill. The killboard shows only 6 kills for the day, but I saw at least 30 macks happily mining away. And, over the past two weeks, there have often been less than a dozen Goon pilots posting kills on miners on any given day.

C'mon, guys! Don't fumble it now!
Tahna Rouspel
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#207 - 2011-11-20 04:39:07 UTC
Winter patch is coming. They have better things to do now than gank ice miners.
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#208 - 2011-11-20 05:09:15 UTC
Tahna Rouspel wrote:
Winter patch is coming. They have better things to do now than gank ice miners.

Is that your way of saying "Winter is coming. There will be plenty of ice soon." perhaps ?
Lol
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#209 - 2011-11-20 05:30:34 UTC
Akita T wrote:
Tahna Rouspel wrote:
Winter patch is coming. They have better things to do now than gank ice miners.

Is that your way of saying "Winter is coming. There will be plenty of ice soon." perhaps ?
Lol

Goons have ADD. The patch that is coming in Winter will release fun new ships. Ice interdiction, like the Delve freeport invasion, is just an attempt to keep bored pilots logging into a boring game. As soon as the Winter patch hits, Interdiction will probably pause for at least a little while in efforts to fly the new ships in new and fun ways.

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Raven Ether
Doomheim
#210 - 2011-11-20 08:33:16 UTC
There's plenty of blue ice, if you know where to look. Farther than any goon would dare venture.
Claire Voyant
#211 - 2011-11-20 11:49:12 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
"md did not notice the biggest market event of 2011 until goons glued a poster of it to their eyeballs, because MD is a group of people who understand the eve economy"

The people of MD and the MD forum are two very different things. I can assure you that many denizens of MD considered oxytopes "old news" long before the goons ever started posting in the forum,and long before most goons knew what was happening.

The forum is for public notices of investment offerings, long-winded arguments, and blatant manipulation attempts. Very little market intelligence is to found on the forum.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#212 - 2011-11-20 14:09:25 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Akita T wrote:
Tahna Rouspel wrote:
Winter patch is coming. They have better things to do now than gank ice miners.

Is that your way of saying "Winter is coming. There will be plenty of ice soon." perhaps ?
Lol

Goons have ADD. The patch that is coming in Winter will release fun new ships. Ice interdiction, like the Delve freeport invasion, is just an attempt to keep bored pilots logging into a boring game. As soon as the Winter patch hits, Interdiction will probably pause for at least a little while in efforts to fly the new ships in new and fun ways.

such as ganking with the new t3 ships which are great for ganking

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Callduron
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#213 - 2011-11-20 15:11:57 UTC
Blowing up POCOs seems like a much more interesting way to annoy industrialists and I doubt the Goon rank and file will want to suicide in their shiny new T3 Battlecruisers early on when they're not easy to replace. I imagine your guys will prefer to go roaming Nullsec in battlecruiser fleers.

On the other hand the cost in isk of running your gallente ice interdiction is negligible, it provides an extra avenue by which your members can entertain themselves and in many cases people will have an alt for nullsec and an alt for ice ganking and uncertainty doesn't hurt the effect.

So I expect the policy of interdicting ice to continue but the amount of attacks to decline. Especially since a lot of the ganking seems to have been done by senior people (Mittens, Weaselior). Then you'll do a few nights ganking at some future point when you need a break from sov war.

So I imagine oxytopes will become a little cheaper when the expansion hits, partly because of the seesaw effect with PI materials and partly because of Goons being busy but then will rise over the longer term.

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I post on reddit as /u/callduron.

Claire Voyant
#214 - 2011-11-20 19:44:14 UTC
Callduron wrote:
Blowing up POCOs seems like a much more interesting way to annoy industrialists and I doubt the Goon rank and file will want to suicide in their shiny new T3 Battlecruisers early on when they're not easy to replace.

I stopped reading at this point.
Jessica Cartier
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#215 - 2011-11-20 23:36:37 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Ice interdiction, like the Delve freeport invasion, is just an attempt to keep bored pilots logging into a boring game. As soon as the Winter patch hits, Interdiction will probably pause for at least a little while in efforts to fly the new ships in new and fun ways.

Really? So, you are saying that the interdiction actually really is only a short-term event, like Hulkageddon, and may fade away after the Winter patch, then, as GoonWaffe piliots find more fun things to do? :P

If so, then I think that the ace kamikazes, incl. Weaselior and esp. Atrum Veneficus, really should be seeing a bigger slice of the profits from this little scam... er, I mean, venture.
Callduron
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#216 - 2011-11-21 14:22:56 UTC
Claire Voyant wrote:
Callduron wrote:
Blowing up POCOs seems like a much more interesting way to annoy industrialists and I doubt the Goon rank and file will want to suicide in their shiny new T3 Battlecruisers early on when they're not easy to replace.

I stopped reading at this point.


How fascinating.

Do post again sometime.

I write http://stabbedup.blogspot.co.uk/

I post on reddit as /u/callduron.

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#217 - 2011-11-21 15:01:53 UTC
"blowing up static structures that don't complain seems like the most fun thing goons can do"

"i enjoy eating paint chips"

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#218 - 2011-11-21 15:03:36 UTC
Callduron wrote:

So I expect the policy of interdicting ice to continue but the amount of attacks to decline. Especially since a lot of the ganking seems to have been done by senior people (Mittens, Weaselior). Then you'll do a few nights ganking at some future point when you need a break from sov war.

we sort of cheated: since we planned the whole thing we were ready to begin as soon as we started (and had been testing fits and strategies for a few days beforehand) so we were able to rack up a shitton of kills while all the bots didn't know what was going on

you could rack up kill streaks with ease then that are virtually impossible now

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Roywyn Kolkor
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#219 - 2011-11-21 16:18:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Roywyn Kolkor
Vaurent, misneden, and a shitton of other systems filling up with people in macks who apparently don't give a damn :D Go go industrialists! brb, mining blue ice in deninard

edit: nvm, it's spreading all accross the universe now, quite hard to put and end to that I think?
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#220 - 2011-11-21 16:39:21 UTC
people have claimed that before, trying (poorly) to manipulate the price down

don't waste your energy stockpilers who are still holding at this point aren't going to be spooked by noname alt #56345 claiming massive mining is going on once again

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.