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cant probe no sigs in any system

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PodAmarr Manager
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-02-02 00:34:27 UTC
im trying to test the new probing formation but i cant find any signals in any system
Sooyoung snsd
EndlessRain
Naval Defence Alliance
#2 - 2014-02-02 02:15:54 UTC
a system needs to be active to get them to spawn. you might get lucky every 10-15 systems but other than that you cant get them
PodAmarr Manager
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-02-02 12:17:07 UTC
wh/relic/data and combat sites are random.
i do not know where you get youre info but its not true.
Sooyoung snsd
EndlessRain
Naval Defence Alliance
#4 - 2014-02-02 15:02:25 UTC
if a system hasnt been loaded it not going spawn things is it
CCP Habakuk
C C P
C C P Alliance
#5 - 2014-02-02 15:43:52 UTC
Sooyoung snsd wrote:
if a system hasnt been loaded it not going spawn things is it


Exploration sites are being added to systems, even if the systems are not loaded. The content of these sites will get added into space at some later point (but they can be scanned before this).

On Singularity you can find more sites in systems, which are very seldom visited. Wormholes are rarer on Singularity, as there are less exits (k162 wormholes).

CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five 0 | (Team Gridlock)

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PodAmarr Manager
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-02-02 17:38:34 UTC
so its a bug or you just didnt add them after the new mapping thing?
Tzu Wu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-02-04 07:13:28 UTC
He's saying as people arent scanning themselves out of the wormholes,less exits appear in known space.There is way less activity on sisi than TQ.Site spawning isnt caused by downtime,they appear when people run sites.For example a DED 4/10 is completed in one system,it appears in another.If nobody runs that site it despawns after 3 days.If a wh has no exits generated by someone warping to the said exit,it isnt going to spawn in k-space.
Cael Autumn
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-02-04 07:39:08 UTC
CCP Habakuk wrote:
Sooyoung snsd wrote:
if a system hasnt been loaded it not going spawn things is it


Exploration sites are being added to systems, even if the systems are not loaded. The content of these sites will get added into space at some later point (but they can be scanned before this).

On Singularity you can find more sites in systems, which are very seldom visited. Wormholes are rarer on Singularity, as there are less exits (k162 wormholes).


Would it be feasible to modify the newbie system script that generates test signatures for the scanning tutorial to create wormholes in 6-c?

Wormholes need testing too!
Matthew97
#9 - 2014-02-04 08:31:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Matthew97
To clarify:

Signatures are being spawned however, as there are very few people actually running them they stay in the same place for 3 days until they time-out and re-spawn elsewhere. (This is my understanding and others I've spoken to, please correct if wrong).

WH's on the other hand do spawn the correct amount as they would on TQ however, as people are not actively scanning for wormholes leading out into K-Space, there is a significant lack of the exit K162 wormholes (as people can just use moveme to get out)

In short, you can find the correct amount of entrances, but very few exits.


There has been some discussion before about making a script to generate more signatures in a testing system (including WH's) but I think this was dismissed as it may cause more issues due to the way they actually spawn in or something? (Again, if anyone has more info on this please clarify)


Edit: I remember at one point the Moveme bot was set-up to allow the user to select a system to go to (I.e. moveme Amarr - moveme Jita), if I remember correctly it could also move people into WH-Space but it was discontinued (Not sure on the exact reason, probably script abuse?)
Danni Bellenger
Crashing this Bane
#10 - 2014-02-05 05:19:37 UTC
I think that would be a good feature to return. At the moment, trying to do any testing in wormholes is pretty damn hard. I've gone 50+ systems trying to find ANY wormhole at all. Adding a moveme function, perhaps to preset wormholes made for testing, or incorporating the moveme -systemname function again, would be beneficial for testers. After all, bugs and exploits happen in wormholes too, and more often than not they go unnoticed (the negative tracking speed bug from months ago, the ESS exploit, etc).
Cu3ball
Edge of Darkness
#11 - 2014-02-05 22:07:22 UTC
I have found plenty of Data/Relic/Combat sites but not WH's. Been looking to do some testing them myself. Will keep looking. At least now I know they do exist.
George Codolle
Legulus Inc.
#12 - 2014-02-06 12:49:19 UTC
Is there no one that lives in a wormhole that goes on sisi that could scan out an exit and advertise it in some sort of private channel?