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What would happen if CCP finally nerfed Nullsec?

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#21 - 2014-02-01 18:57:46 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Nullsec gets nerfed, highsec burns.


Funny, people called me tinfoil when I suggested that is exactly what mittens told CCP would happen if they mess with his operations.
Now you guys are openly stating it.

No we call you tinfoil because you think CCP has been infiltrated and taken over by the illuminati.


I thought the Goons were supposed to be the CIA?

See, now I'm all confused, I can't get my conspiracy theories straight. Abraham Lincoln was an alien! Steve Jobs killed Kennedy and MLK!

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#22 - 2014-02-01 18:58:30 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
MLK!


mi lyttel klooney?

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#23 - 2014-02-01 19:00:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Mourn LeBlade wrote:


It seems to me that with Local available, the Nullbears in the "outer regions" have virtually no risk or threat to their wealthy and lazy lifestyle.



This is not true. Player "Infinity Ziona" tested it, and took a comedy fit "Shield Proteus" out to null sec and killed serveral ratting ships. That same comedy fit Pro wouldn't have been able to kill even one Battlecruiser sized ship in high sec before CONCORD blapped it, yet he killed serveal in Tribe space.

That's empirical evidence of the lie to "deep null safety". Hell, YOU just proved it with "everytime I come out of a wormhole into null" lol, intel channels (the best protection a null pilot has) means nothing to wormholes.

Null has to have local because (unlike wormholes) it has gates and people can use cynos. let me put gates and enabled cynos in your wormhole with no local and see how well you fair.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#24 - 2014-02-01 19:22:41 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Mourn LeBlade wrote:


It seems to me that with Local available, the Nullbears in the "outer regions" have virtually no risk or threat to their wealthy and lazy lifestyle.



This is not true. Player "Infinity Ziona" tested it, and took a comedy fit "Shield Proteus" out to null sec and killed serveral ratting ships. That same comedy fit Pro wouldn't have been able to kill even one Battlecruiser sized ship in high sec before CONCORD blapped it, yet he killed serveal in Tribe space.

That's empirical evidence of the lie to "deep null safety". Hell, YOU just proved it with "everytime I come out of a wormhole into null" lol, intel channels (the best protection a null pilot has) means nothing to wormholes.

Null has to have local because (unlike wormholes) it has gates and people can use cynos. let me put gates and enabled cynos in your wormhole with no local and see how well you fair.



Haha nothing gets the Wormies riled up like suggesting that cynos should work in W-space.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Anslo
Scope Works
#25 - 2014-02-01 19:24:10 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Mourn LeBlade wrote:


It seems to me that with Local available, the Nullbears in the "outer regions" have virtually no risk or threat to their wealthy and lazy lifestyle.



This is not true. Player "Infinity Ziona" tested it, and took a comedy fit "Shield Proteus" out to null sec and killed serveral ratting ships. That same comedy fit Pro wouldn't have been able to kill even one Battlecruiser sized ship in high sec before CONCORD blapped it, yet he killed serveal in Tribe space.

That's empirical evidence of the lie to "deep null safety". Hell, YOU just proved it with "everytime I come out of a wormhole into null" lol, intel channels (the best protection a null pilot has) means nothing to wormholes.

Null has to have local because (unlike wormholes) it has gates and people can use cynos. let me put gates and enabled cynos in your wormhole with no local and see how well you fair.



Haha nothing gets the Wormies riled up like suggesting that cynos should work in W-space.

Wasn't that a long term plan? To allow it to happen but make it extremely difficult to execute?...

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#26 - 2014-02-01 19:29:47 UTC
Malcanis wrote:


Haha nothing gets the Wormies riled up like suggesting that cynos should work in W-space.


Idk, they seemed pretty PO'ed about how the ESS turned wormholes into basically having local.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#27 - 2014-02-01 19:32:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Anslo wrote:

Wasn't that a long term plan? To allow it to happen but make it extremely difficult to execute?...


I thought so too, but it's like most things thoat don't make it into the game, like the "strategic weapons" that "strategic cruisers" were supposed to have to make them...well...strategic lol. I'm not sure WH cynos would be a good idea btw.
Anslo
Scope Works
#28 - 2014-02-01 19:44:00 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Anslo wrote:

Wasn't that a long term plan? To allow it to happen but make it extremely difficult to execute?...


I thought so too, but it's like most things thoat don't make it into the game, like the "strategic weapons" that "strategic cruisers" were supposed to have to make them...well...strategic lol. I'm not sure WH cynos would be a good idea btw.

IMO they're strategic enough being able to be as versatile as they are. What would their strategic weapon even be?...

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Mario Putzo
#29 - 2014-02-01 19:47:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Mario Putzo
Nullsec is empty I don't know what you are talking about. Got 3 dudes attempting setting up blops in Vale right now, 13 systems not a single living soul other than myself. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. Space should be owned by Guristas since they are the only ones active in it.
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-02-01 19:49:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Caviar Liberta
Hasn't this been gone over before?
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2014-02-01 19:50:28 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Nullsec gets nerfed, highsec burns.


Funny, people called me tinfoil when I suggested that is exactly what mittens told CCP would happen if they mess with his operations.
Now you guys are openly stating it.


Dinsdale tears fofofo!

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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2014-02-01 19:52:14 UTC
Dinsdale tears are literally the fuel that keeps my posting machine going.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#33 - 2014-02-01 19:53:57 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Just because you're lactate intolerant doesn't mean we have to ban the cows.


You don't ban the cows. You kill them.

Then you eat them.
Digits Kho
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2014-02-01 20:03:41 UTC
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
If local in 0.0 is removed, do we also get other WH features? Like:

- free cynojammer, blocking even covert cynos, regardless of sov level or pos ownership
- the ability to close stargates at will, like collapsing wormholes
- A mass limit on stargates

What you wrote would be just fine with me, but for alliances like yours it would actualy be more of a pain in the ass than a good feature
Mourn LeBlade
Jupiter Roughriders
#35 - 2014-02-01 20:44:45 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Hasn't this been gone over before?



Perhaps it has, but I don't read the forums. And regardless, I am the expert.

LTCOL LeBlade 177 Division Live Free or Die
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#36 - 2014-02-02 05:50:25 UTC
I thought the ESS was supposed to solve all of this single-player non-interacting style of game play.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#37 - 2014-02-02 06:08:24 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I thought the ESS was supposed to solve all of this single-player non-interacting style of game play.



It does.


And thats what scares people.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#38 - 2014-02-02 06:20:46 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I thought the ESS was supposed to solve all of this single-player non-interacting style of game play.



It does.


And thats what scares people.




The whole thing is beyond my grasp at this point.

That's what I like about this game. 7 years and I've only see around 30 percent of it.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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