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Ayeshah Volfield

Republic Military School

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 114

#1 - 2014-02-01 10:04:45 UTC | Edited by: Ayeshah Volfield

Greetings, fellow capsuleers.

After being absent for a few months, skill queue online aside, I noticed quite a few modules have been changed/added.

The following fit is what I had in mind and I need some pointers as to how to improve it for level 4 missions in Minmatar space.

[Vargur, Vargur Rubicon]

Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
[Empty Low slot]
[Empty Low slot]

Federation Navy 100MN Microwarpdrive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Salvager II
Bastion Module I

Large Projectile Burst Aerator II
[Empty Rig slot]

Hobgoblin II x5
Salvage Drone I x5
Warrior II x5

As you'll notice, 2 low slots and 1 rig slot are empty as I'm unsure which modules/rig would be the most effective. Damage control ? 2x DDA ? Signal amp ?

For reference, the propulsion module, booster and gyros are all the bling I'm willing to undock with.

Thank you in advance for any and all replies.

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Imperial Academy 2,271
Gregor Parud Imperial Academy Likes received: 2,271	#2 - 2014-02-01 10:07:19 UTC 1 4th gyro and one TE replace one TC with MJD add ambit rig

Ministry of War Amarr Empire 86
Odithia Ministry of War Amarr Empire Likes received: 86	#3 - 2014-02-01 11:06:05 UTC 1 Add a Damage control in low. Or Gank Control as I like to call them.

Batelle

Federal Navy Academy

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#4 - 2014-02-01 11:25:40 UTC

Gregor Parud wrote:

4th gyro and one TE
replace one TC with MJD
add ambit rig

This is pretty good advice, although my personal preference would be like this:

Damage control, TE
replace one TC with MJD
Add CCC rig

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hellcane Never Back Down Likes received: 146	#5 - 2014-02-01 13:37:46 UTC Gregor Parud wrote: 4th gyro and one TE replace one TC with MJD add ambit rig This. Also think about going with a medium booster.

stoicfaux

Likes received: 6,283

#6 - 2014-02-01 15:09:23 UTC

4th gyro II, DCU, warp speed rig. (The rig choice is pretty up in the air, IMO.)

Drop the salvager for another tractor beam. Drop the warrior drones for spare hobgobs and salvage drones. (Angel elite frigs are weakest to thermal.)

If you want cap stableish, then use a pithum c-type MSB.

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hellcane Never Back Down Likes received: 146	#7 - 2014-02-01 16:12:39 UTC Didn't even look at highs. I run a tractor, small remote armor rep(for drones) and random 3rd slot.

Alucard Bloodwing

Unus Iunctus

Likes received: 1

#8 - 2014-02-02 22:12:11 UTC

[Vargur]

4x Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Cannon
Bastion Module I
Salvager I
2x Small Tractor Beam I

Pith B-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Pith B-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II

4x Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II

Large Projectile Burst Aerator II
Large Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I

5x Hammerhead II
5x Warrior II

EMP L
Fusion L
Phased Plasma L

1.9bil toy that makes lvl4 missions very boring.


hellcane Never Back Down Likes received: 146	#9 - 2014-02-02 22:14:45 UTC Don't copy the above fit.

Kagura Nikon

Native Freshfood

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 2,148

#10 - 2014-02-03 08:37:32 UTC

Ayeshah Volfield wrote:

Level 4.. mm drop the expensive tank. You do not need it.

Also forget damm salvaging, its not worth. Only use the modules if you do have spare CPU and no ohter ideas

My vargur has 4 800mm t2 2 TS HEavy Nos ( the extra range helps specially makeyou feel safer in case you disconnect with bastion on) 1 tractor bem to get the can of the mission
1 Good AB 1 MJD 1 T2 invul 1 Large T2 SB 1 TComputer 1 specific hardener
2 t2 Ccap rigs
DC T2, 4 Gyro t2

If you have a crystal set you can drop to a medium booster and do not eve worry with cap.

"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"

chaosjj

Doomheim

Likes received: 88

#11 - 2014-02-03 09:02:32 UTC

My Vargur:

800mm Repeating Cannon II
800mm Repeating Cannon II
800mm Repeating Cannon II
800mm Repeating Cannon II
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Salvager II
Bastion Module I

Pith x-type large shield booster (any large booster will do)
Caldari navy Shield boost amplifier
Invulnerability field II
Core X-Type 100MN Afterburner or MJD
2x Shadow serpentis tracking computer

4x Republic Fleet gyro stabilizer
Domination Tracking Enhancer

2x Large Projectile Ambit Extension II

5x Hobgoblin II
5x Salvage drones

Cargo:
mobile tractor unit
Mobile depot

Ayeshah Volfield

Republic Military School

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 114

#12 - 2014-02-03 09:39:57 UTC | Edited by: Ayeshah Volfield

chaosjj wrote:

What is the mobile depot for ?

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Spaghetti Militia 939
Dato Koppla Spaghetti Militia Likes received: 939	#13 - 2014-02-03 11:10:46 UTC hellcane wrote: Don't copy the above fit. Alucards fit is amazing, just be sure to run in Osmon or Lanngisi and you're golden.

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Kosetzu The Black Crow Bandits Northern Coalition. Likes received: 164	#14 - 2014-02-03 12:04:52 UTC So many gankworthy fits posted here... You don't really need to pimp the ship at all, except maybe damage mods for the extra bit of damage. You may never get ganked even with a 10B fit, but your isk/h is not improving anywhere near enough for the modules to be worth it at all.

Ayeshah Volfield

Republic Military School

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 114

#15 - 2014-02-03 12:24:49 UTC

Kosetzu wrote:

So many gankworthy fits posted here... You don't really need to pimp the ship at all, except maybe damage mods for the extra bit of damage. You may never get ganked even with a 10B fit, but your isk/h is not improving anywhere near enough for the modules to be worth it at all.

Only using that tank mod due to how cheap it was. If / when I lose the vargur, probably going with T2 x-large or large shield booster as this one feels quite overtanked as is.

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chaosjj

Doomheim

Likes received: 88

#16 - 2014-02-03 12:51:16 UTC

Ayeshah Volfield wrote:

chaosjj wrote:

What is the mobile depot for ?

To swap the afterburner for a MJD during the mission

Aeril Malkyre

Knights of the Ouroboros

Likes received: 434

#17 - 2014-02-03 17:54:03 UTC

This wrecks Level 4's with little effort, and isn't a blazing gank beacon. Just interesting. MWD and MJD give me all the mobility. Three tractors, let the salvagers do their work. Two Invulns and the Bastion, shield reps around 2K per pulse. Blows up frigates down to about 11km.

[Vargur, fleet fit]

Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Republic Fleet X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet 100MN Microwarpdrive
Large Micro Jump Drive

800mm Repeating Cannon II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Fusion L
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Bastion Module I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

Salvage Drone I x5
Warrior II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Synth Tech 203
chaosgrimm Synth Tech Likes received: 203	#18 - 2014-02-03 17:57:31 UTC Gregor Parud wrote: 4th gyro and one TE replace one TC with MJD add ambit rig ^ this

Bertrand Butler

Cras es Noster

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#19 - 2014-02-03 18:09:16 UTC

Its pretty simple to fit the vargur really. 1-2 slots for tank are enough, and the rest go to damage projection and gank. Here is an example.

[Vargur, L4]

Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
Core C-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive
Large Micro Jump Drive

800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Bastion Module I

Large Projectile Burst Aerator II
Large Projectile Ambit Extension I

Sentenced 1989

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#20 - 2014-02-04 01:30:55 UTC

[Vargur, PVE]
Damage Control II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Gist X-Type Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Gist B-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive

800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Bastion Module I

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Large Projectile Metastasis Adjuster II

Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5
Salvage Drone I x5
Nanite Repair Paste x500
Republic Fleet EMP L x10000
Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L x10000
Republic Fleet Fusion L x10000

Also in cargo hold:
Mobile Depot
Micro Jump Drive Unit

When you go in mission, and you know next room is long range (talking for example Dread Pirate Scarlet) you refit mwd for mjd on acceleration gate.

How to use this fit?
Land in site, if there is gate burn for it and bastion on the gate, blow everything up.

More tracking? You don't need it and you have rig for the boost, even with Marauder IV this can hit pretty much anything.
Tracking enhancer istead of Damage control unit? For 2.5 km falloff, no thank you.
Faction tracking computers? For 2.5 km fallof, no thank you.
Faction invul? You can't pull that much aggro on yourself and still not be able to tank it, unless your skills are at like level I.
Faction MWD? Yea, sure, cap penalty can be harsh, but meta IV one can work as well.
Rigs, you could replace metastasis with burst aerator to gain 50ish more dps, but meh, I like killing frigates on 12 km with large guns.
T2 booster? I think it can work, I was using less tank (around 400 omni) and it was holding up in most missions if you didn't blap all the triggers. With this tank and bastion you can pretty much pull all the aggro in any mission and still shot everything down before your cap is below 50%

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