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Highsec wardeccers! You can dec GSF and Red AND Blue for 50M/week!

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jack1974
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-02-01 21:41:40 UTC
Are we really on the subject of isk? Goons of all people, especially after B-R, should understand that some people don't worry about price tags when it comes to fun.

Enjoy the spotlight.
Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2014-02-01 21:48:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Danalee
Professor Clio wrote:
Danalee wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:
Once again gevlon shows a dismal understanding of game mechanics. That POCO will be in the main goon alliance by tomorrow. Pro tip: you can't transfer a poco outside of your alliance while at war, but you can drop a corp from alliance A, have it join alliance B and then transfer the POCO to any corp in alliance B. Your holding corp is at war the entire time and yet the POCO has been transfered.


Wow man, such knowledge... That's a mouth full right there!
You learned all that from roleplaying wargames or did your goon holders have to draw a nice little picture for you?

Too bad you lot have to find ways to circumvent game mechanics to keep a semblance of control going Evil
If you are so great, why do you have to do all those tricks? Wasn't it impossible to destroy a poco?

*** Good guys 1 - nullbears & pets 0 ***


D.

Bear



Did I use words that were too complicated for you to wrap your tiny mind around? I am a professor I'm usually good at explaining things.


Yes yes, they call nannies professor nowadays huh... Might want to work on your comebacks if you ever want to be a real professor little buddy P

No comments on the circumventing of game mechanics to rescue undestroyable pocos I see. OK, noted professor.

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#43 - 2014-02-01 22:35:47 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:
Danalee wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:
Once again gevlon shows a dismal understanding of game mechanics. That POCO will be in the main goon alliance by tomorrow. Pro tip: you can't transfer a poco outside of your alliance while at war, but you can drop a corp from alliance A, have it join alliance B and then transfer the POCO to any corp in alliance B. Your holding corp is at war the entire time and yet the POCO has been transfered.


Wow man, such knowledge... That's a mouth full right there!
You learned all that from roleplaying wargames or did your goon holders have to draw a nice little picture for you?

Too bad you lot have to find ways to circumvent game mechanics to keep a semblance of control going Evil
If you are so great, why do you have to do all those tricks? Wasn't it impossible to destroy a poco?

*** Good guys 1 - nullbears & pets 0 ***


D.

Bear



Did I use words that were too complicated for you to wrap your tiny mind around? I am a professor I'm usually good at explaining things.


Yes yes, they call nannies professor nowadays huh... Might want to work on your comebacks if you ever want to be a real professor little buddy P

No comments on the circumventing of game mechanics to rescue undestroyable pocos I see. OK, noted professor.

D.

Bear


This is unintentionally hilarious. I actually am a real professor. Bonus points if you can guess of what. (I'll give you a hint, it has to do with the second part of my character name)
Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2014-02-01 22:47:08 UTC
Professor Clio wrote:

This is unintentionally hilarious. I actually am a real professor. Bonus points if you can guess of what. (I'll give you a hint, it has to do with the second part of my character name)


I know right, a history professor not seeing the irony of bold claims in the past and ignoring present facts... Who'd have guessed?

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#45 - 2014-02-01 23:05:05 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:

This is unintentionally hilarious. I actually am a real professor. Bonus points if you can guess of what. (I'll give you a hint, it has to do with the second part of my character name)


I know right, a history professor not seeing the irony of bold claims in the past and ignoring present facts... Who'd have guessed?

D.

Bear


I try to keep my real and fake personas separate. I'm going to guess/hope you're much smarter in real life than you appear on forums.
Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2014-02-01 23:22:32 UTC
Professor Clio wrote:
Danalee wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:

This is unintentionally hilarious. I actually am a real professor. Bonus points if you can guess of what. (I'll give you a hint, it has to do with the second part of my character name)


I know right, a history professor not seeing the irony of bold claims in the past and ignoring present facts... Who'd have guessed?

D.

Bear


I try to keep my real and fake personas separate. I'm going to guess/hope you're much smarter in real life than you appear on forums.


Came thinking The prof would know how to fix my ****** renault clio. Left thinking I need sapphire mirrors Blink

Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#47 - 2014-02-01 23:32:07 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Oh noes, what a shame!
They have no e-honor, unlike the prestigious Band of Bees alliance!


No ehonoUre~~ needed when you're winning erryday and there's nothing you can do about it except move your goalposts further towards "doing nothing is winning".

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#48 - 2014-02-02 01:43:49 UTC
jack1974 wrote:
Are we really on the subject of isk? Goons of all people, especially after B-R, should understand that some people don't worry about price tags when it comes to fun.

Enjoy the spotlight.

have you never read gevlons blog or anything he's ever posted

i dont think he talks about anything else

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#49 - 2014-02-02 04:14:26 UTC
Hey "Professor" Clio, I wonder how Hormone1971 (a fellow RvB member) feels about your decision to wardec The Marmite Collective in "search of good fights" (doublespeak for "Mynnna's orders").

Hint: look him up on the killboard.

And true, Goons can evacuate the POCO into GSF (inheriting all wars), but the old alliance (unless disbanded and recreated for 1B) is still in war with Marmite and you are still locked into that war.

Also, if someone pays the 500M/week to wardec Goons, they get Red and Blue for free as war target, as soon as they reinforce a POCO.

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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#50 - 2014-02-02 04:23:25 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
And true, Goons can evacuate the POCO into GSF (inheriting all wars), but the old alliance (unless disbanded and recreated for 1B) is still in war with Marmite and you are still locked into that war.


Oh no, not my trade corp.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#51 - 2014-02-02 05:11:53 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Hey "Professor" Clio, I wonder how Hormone1971 (a fellow RvB member) feels about your decision to wardec The Marmite Collective in "search of good fights" (doublespeak for "Mynnna's orders").

Hint: look him up on the killboard.
I imagine he must have dropped to the floor and started convulsing and screaming "why me?!?!?" Alternatively, he probably didn't give a shite. Losses happen. If he cared about his pod that much, he'd +1 a scout to avoid war targets. It's not the first time they've been at war (in fact, it's not the first time they've been at war with Marmite), so stop making out like the members are all flailing around crying over a handful of station campers.

At the end of the day, you post this stuff to stroke your epeen. Like always, you pick whatever metric makes you feel best about yourself rather than what is relevant to the situation. Strategic results are what are important, and there are none of those. You've essentially paid billions for Marmite to create a subgroup made up of the exact type of people you claim to hate.

Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Also, if someone pays the 500M/week to wardec Goons, they get Red and Blue for free as war target, as soon as they reinforce a POCO.
Gee wizz! Can they really?!?!?! There was me thinking people could just, you know, fly into null sec and shoot at people for free.

Face it, your idea of "dec the goons + RvB for 50M" fell apart because you didn't understand the game mechanics. Take the first step in bettering yourself and gracefully admit your failing without making excuses or trying to change the parameters of your statement. Honestly and sincerely. You'll feel better once you realise that it's OK to be wrong.

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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#52 - 2014-02-02 05:48:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Gevlon Goblin
Lucas Kell wrote:

Face it, your idea of "dec the goons + RvB for 50M" fell apart because you didn't understand the game mechanics. Take the first step in bettering yourself and gracefully admit your failing without making excuses or trying to change the parameters of your statement. Honestly and sincerely. You'll feel better once you realise that it's OK to be wrong.


Actually it just creates a window.
After the new POCO is planted by a dummy corp, the corp must be decced for 50M before it moves to GSF. Then GSF inherits your war and you can shoot Goons for a week (next week the war cost will be 500M).

If you shoot a Goon POCO, you instantly get RvB as war target too. After RvB decced Marmite, their "we just wanted Good fights" nonsense fell apart. No one in his right mind can claim you can get good fights from Marmite.

So yes, the statement "you can get Goons + RvB for 50M/week forever" is not true. The true statement is
"you can get Goons + RvB for 500M/week forever and you can make it 50M for the first week". Assuming Mynnna remains busy planting new POCOs, you can just drop the Goon war and restart after a day using his next dummy corp for 50M.


My question of "how does Hormone1971 feels" is to be read "I wonder how RvB crew feels about their directorate starting a war against the worst highsec gankers and perspectively against anyone who decs GSF, making them farmed horribly". Remember that even the most horrible highsec PvP crew, Lemmings (who literally take every warm body) can achieve 2:1 damage:loss against RvB, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what will happen if someone competent gets into war with them.

mynnna wrote:

Oh no, not my trade corp.

I meant, RvB is locked into that war since they are allies.

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Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#53 - 2014-02-02 06:28:54 UTC
Why does this fool think that an alliance like RVB that stays permanently at war in the interest of pvp is inconvenienced by...more war and more pvp?
zyalino
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2014-02-02 07:33:42 UTC
Leigh Akiga wrote:
Why does this fool think that an alliance like RVB that stays permanently at war in the interest of pvp is inconvenienced by...more war and more pvp?


because the originaly cool thing about rvb was, that you could keep your pod, and enjoy a fair fight in the afternoon while not having to worry about just anything.

yep, rvb will continue to exist, it will grow into a serious hs alliance.
but,
the original idea behind it is dead.

where exactly would they play 1v1 frig fighting if their 1v1 system is camped?
where and how will they do their ffa's, if the ffa system is camped?
etc pp

it once was a really cool thing.

whatever
Pete Butcher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2014-02-02 08:56:42 UTC
Everyday i asked goblin on his blog what objectives he achieved. Never was the comment allowed. That suggests, at least partially, he understands how much he fails at this game. On the other hand, his constant stream of shitposting implies he's either too stubborn to accept defeat or really believes he can claim victory by moving objectives. Either way, it's quite entertaining.
Somewhere he posted that in war only results matter. Well goons still have the same number of pocos and goblins wallet is depleting. Quite a result indeed.

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Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#56 - 2014-02-02 08:59:03 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Hey "Professor" Clio, I wonder how Hormone1971 (a fellow RvB member) feels about your decision to wardec The Marmite Collective in "search of good fights" (doublespeak for "Mynnna's orders").

Hint: look him up on the killboard.

And true, Goons can evacuate the POCO into GSF (inheriting all wars), but the old alliance (unless disbanded and recreated for 1B) is still in war with Marmite and you are still locked into that war.

Also, if someone pays the 500M/week to wardec Goons, they get Red and Blue for free as war target, as soon as they reinforce a POCO.


Anyone can beat marmite, my alliance is destroying them its not hard. Sadly gelvon isk thumping carebears with a chip on their shoulder and a tampon for brains need not to worry about the way the world of warfare works since your in a NPC corp and refuses to grow a set and fight on the front lines. Think you and tora have more in common everyday.

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Pew Terror
All of it
#57 - 2014-02-02 08:59:33 UTC
This was a pretty long read for what basically amounts to:
"Random 3rd parties spend personal money and tears on free RvB content creation."
Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2014-02-02 09:41:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Danalee
Pew Terror wrote:
This was a pretty long read for what basically amounts to:
"Random 3rd parties spend personal money and tears on free RvB content creation."


Someone's laughing... But it ain't rvbee Twisted
To quote Mangala Solaris > FUCKFUCKUFCKUFCKUFCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK

D.

Bear

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Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
flakeys
Doomheim
#59 - 2014-02-02 09:46:17 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
jack1974 wrote:
Are we really on the subject of isk? Goons of all people, especially after B-R, should understand that some people don't worry about price tags when it comes to fun.

Enjoy the spotlight.

have you never read gevlons blog or anything he's ever posted

i dont think he talks about anything else



Well he also talks about ganking miners .... and uhm ... uhm .... yeah that basically . Roll

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#60 - 2014-02-02 13:17:55 UTC
Leigh Akiga wrote:
Why does this fool think that an alliance like RVB that stays permanently at war in the interest of pvp is inconvenienced by...more war and more pvp?

He can't work it out because he doesn't understand people.

I have an alt in RvB and it's 99% business as usual, 1% bothering with any other wardeccers, to which both is offered the same amount of fun. All this wailing and gnashing of teeth is happening by the perfect-actors in his head.
Pete Butcher wrote:
Somewhere he posted that in war only results matter. Well goons still have the same number of pocos and goblins wallet is depleting. Quite a result indeed.

Dead goon ships are pure ROI according to his numbers. That means, if we lose a 100mil pod, Gevlon perceives that as 100mil returned to him.

Basically the same thing - he changes the metrics of what he's measuring to try to make it look like it's working. He is however 0% towards meeting his goal.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,