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Recruitment Scamming. Now a bannable offense.

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Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#81 - 2011-11-10 01:20:01 UTC
I often enter a trance-like state when I'm posting.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Gealla
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2011-11-10 01:23:22 UTC
NJEchoAlpha wrote:
Crossposted due to mod oppression.

The only reason I play Eve is because the interactions between players are direct and all have impacts, everything from scams to ganking. While there is a disadvantage to some players, Eve is a better game with this. If CCP feels the right path is to hold everyone's hands and make nobody feel sad or upset, then Eve is dead. I will not hesitate to move on, and I'm sure others will feel the same way.


And go where exactly?

Tbh if everybody that's made this threat in the last 3 months actually left, the Mental age of the EVE community would increase by 15-20 years. Minimum.
Gealla
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2011-11-10 01:24:21 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
I often enter a trance-like state when I'm posting.



That's called sleeping....also happens on gate camps P
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#84 - 2011-11-10 01:25:53 UTC
Gealla wrote:
And go where exactly?

Tbh if everybody that's made this threat in the last 3 months actually left, the Mental age of the EVE community would increase by 15-20 years. Minimum.

At some point CCP is going to have to stop being horrible just because there aren't any other internet spaceship sandbox games out there. I had hoped that they had realized this but with recent changes in tone I'm starting to have my doubts.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

K Suri
Doomheim
#85 - 2011-11-10 01:26:19 UTC
Gealla wrote:
NJEchoAlpha wrote:
Crossposted due to mod oppression.

The only reason I play Eve is because the interactions between players are direct and all have impacts, everything from scams to ganking. While there is a disadvantage to some players, Eve is a better game with this. If CCP feels the right path is to hold everyone's hands and make nobody feel sad or upset, then Eve is dead. I will not hesitate to move on, and I'm sure others will feel the same way.


And go where exactly?

Tbh if everybody that's made this threat in the last 3 months actually left, the Mental age of the EVE community would increase by 15-20 years. Minimum.

+1, beautiful. Simply beautiful.
K Suri
Doomheim
#86 - 2011-11-10 01:28:13 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Gealla wrote:
And go where exactly?

Tbh if everybody that's made this threat in the last 3 months actually left, the Mental age of the EVE community would increase by 15-20 years. Minimum.

At some point CCP is going to have to stop being horrible just because there aren't any other internet spaceship sandbox games out there. I had hoped that they had realized this but with recent changes in tone I'm starting to have my doubts.

Why? Because you and the rest of the whiney Deklein cry babies might quit?

You'd have to unsub Harlot and no-one will get to see your marvelllous insight into ALL matters Eve.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#87 - 2011-11-10 01:32:05 UTC
K Suri wrote:
Why? Because you and the rest of the whiney Deklein cry babies might quit?

You'd have to unsub Harlot and no-one will get to see your marvelllous insight into ALL matters Eve.

Your rage inspires me. Never stop posting.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Myxx
The Scope
#88 - 2011-11-10 01:38:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Myxx
It is my opinion that while this change has good meaning intentions for new players, that it does more to harm them than help them. To explain, a story:

I started EVE back in 2005. When I started, thirty million isk was a lot to me. To have even twenty million isk was a good day to me, a real good one. And then, I was scammed less than a week after I had made that initial thirty million isk. I was shattered, angry, slightly depressed and did I mention angry? So there I sat for about an hour, pondering my options: Quit in my fit of rage that I had been had from such an obvious scam, OR, I could learn from it and rebuild and defy my desire to say **** this and quit. I decided this because to me, to allow a single person I've never really met get the better of me and drive me away that easily was unacceptable. That attitude grew: Now, any time anyone puts themselves between me and a goal I have ingame with the intent to **** me off or get me to quit, I keep going. Why? Whats the worst they can do? Take everything from me... again? pfft.

So, GM Thunder and those that made this decision, consider that it is in the spirit of EVE that these things are not only allowed, they're condoned and in some aspects, outright encouraged. Yeah, it sucks pretty hard to get ****** like that as a new player... BUT... its ultimately better to allow it and condone it so that people learn. Coddling new players makes the symptoms worse and getting scammed later on is even harsher as a result.

I personally disagree with the practice of recruitment scamming, but it is perfectly within the spirit and soul of EVE to do so. If this change stands, you've done more to harm anyone new to EVE than Goonswarm or anyone else could hope to do.
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
#89 - 2011-11-10 01:43:41 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
I often enter a trance-like state when I'm posting.


Yeah....."zombie" seems about right.

I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.

Zions Child
Higashikata Industries
#90 - 2011-11-10 01:45:53 UTC
Myxx's post is the best post in this thread. Scamming is a part of EVE-Life, don't screw it up. It would be like getting rid of ganking or pirating, its just another aspect that is a part of EVE's character.
K Suri
Doomheim
#91 - 2011-11-10 01:45:59 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
K Suri wrote:
Why? Because you and the rest of the whiney Deklein cry babies might quit?

You'd have to unsub Harlot and no-one will get to see your marvelllous insight into ALL matters Eve.

Your rage inspires me. Never stop posting.


I come only to
Quote:
see your marvelllous insight into ALL matters Eve
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#92 - 2011-11-10 01:46:02 UTC
Myxx wrote:

I personally disagree with the practice of recruitment scamming, but it is perfectly within the spirit and soul of EVE to do so.


And CCP agrees.

They have not stopped the practice in the game in any way whatsoever.

They have stopped it in one channel. Theirs. And they can do whatever they want with their own channel as can anyone else in the game who makes a channel.

Mr Epeen Cool
K Suri
Doomheim
#93 - 2011-11-10 01:47:11 UTC
Zions Child wrote:
Myxx's post is the best post in this thread. Scamming is a part of EVE-Life, don't screw it up. It would be like getting rid of ganking or pirating, its just another aspect that is a part of EVE's character.

Confused? Scamming wasn't made illegal and nor will it be.
Deryk Kyeld
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#94 - 2011-11-10 01:48:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Deryk Kyeld
CCP wants the recruitment channel to be for the sole purpose of recruitment, not some global chat free for all. If you want to scam potential corp recruits make your own corp recruitment channel and scam them there. CCP doesn't have to implement every game feature with scamming and ganking in mind.
Myxx
The Scope
#95 - 2011-11-10 01:50:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Myxx
K Suri wrote:
Zions Child wrote:
Myxx's post is the best post in this thread. Scamming is a part of EVE-Life, don't screw it up. It would be like getting rid of ganking or pirating, its just another aspect that is a part of EVE's character.

Confused? Scamming wasn't made illegal and nor will it be.


Mr Epeen wrote:
Myxx wrote:

I personally disagree with the practice of recruitment scamming, but it is perfectly within the spirit and soul of EVE to do so.


And CCP agrees.

They have not stopped the practice in the game in any way whatsoever.

They have stopped it in one channel. Theirs. And they can do whatever they want with their own channel as can anyone else in the game who makes a channel.

Mr Epeen Cool


The problem is that they shouldn't do that, and it is liable to cause people to use it as justification for the outlawing of scamming altogether. Its the slippery slope effect.

Whats next? Cant scam in local? Can only scam people who have played longer than five months?

Come on, this change is bullshit and everyone knows it.

No scamming in the help channel or the newbie channels, fine, cool, thats understandable. Recruitment though... not so much.
Zions Child
Higashikata Industries
#96 - 2011-11-10 01:52:26 UTC
K Suri wrote:
Zions Child wrote:
Myxx's post is the best post in this thread. Scamming is a part of EVE-Life, don't screw it up. It would be like getting rid of ganking or pirating, its just another aspect that is a part of EVE's character.

Confused? Scamming wasn't made illegal and nor will it be.

Are you a cat? Do I know you? Are you important? Does your opinion matter? I wonder what all these questions have in common.

Speaking of cats, whatever happened to Cat?
How was it that she signed posts again?
x lol or something like that?
K Suri
Doomheim
#97 - 2011-11-10 01:53:52 UTC
Myxx wrote:
K Suri wrote:
Zions Child wrote:
Myxx's post is the best post in this thread. Scamming is a part of EVE-Life, don't screw it up. It would be like getting rid of ganking or pirating, its just another aspect that is a part of EVE's character.

Confused? Scamming wasn't made illegal and nor will it be.


Mr Epeen wrote:
Myxx wrote:

I personally disagree with the practice of recruitment scamming, but it is perfectly within the spirit and soul of EVE to do so.


And CCP agrees.

They have not stopped the practice in the game in any way whatsoever.

They have stopped it in one channel. Theirs. And they can do whatever they want with their own channel as can anyone else in the game who makes a channel.

Mr Epeen Cool


The problem is that they shouldn't do that, and it is liable to cause people to use it as justification for the outlawing of scamming altogether. Its the slippery slope effect.

Whats next? Cant scam in local? Can only scam people who have played longer than five months?

Come on, this change is bullshit and everyone knows it.

Gotta admit, anyone falling for a scam these days with so much talk about it probably deserves to be scammed. Been playing for years, have billions, never been scammed. Never.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#98 - 2011-11-10 01:54:21 UTC
K Suri wrote:


I come only to
K Suri wrote:
see your marvelllous insight into ALL matters Eve

When you're resorting to quoting your own posts it's time to face the fact that you're never going to be a great forum troll.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

K Suri
Doomheim
#99 - 2011-11-10 01:55:20 UTC
Zions Child wrote:
K Suri wrote:
Zions Child wrote:
Myxx's post is the best post in this thread. Scamming is a part of EVE-Life, don't screw it up. It would be like getting rid of ganking or pirating, its just another aspect that is a part of EVE's character.

Confused? Scamming wasn't made illegal and nor will it be.

Are you a cat? Do I know you? Are you important? Does your opinion matter? I wonder what all these questions have in common.

Are you a cat? Do I know you? Are you important? Does your opinion matter?

Are you just another Deklein Co. whiner?
Taliph Stillwood
Hunter's Blood Bond
#100 - 2011-11-10 01:55:35 UTC
Myxx wrote:
K Suri wrote:
Zions Child wrote:
Myxx's post is the best post in this thread. Scamming is a part of EVE-Life, don't screw it up. It would be like getting rid of ganking or pirating, its just another aspect that is a part of EVE's character.

Confused? Scamming wasn't made illegal and nor will it be.


Mr Epeen wrote:
Myxx wrote:

I personally disagree with the practice of recruitment scamming, but it is perfectly within the spirit and soul of EVE to do so.


And CCP agrees.

They have not stopped the practice in the game in any way whatsoever.

They have stopped it in one channel. Theirs. And they can do whatever they want with their own channel as can anyone else in the game who makes a channel.

Mr Epeen Cool


The problem is that they shouldn't do that, and it is liable to cause people to use it as justification for the outlawing of scamming altogether. Its the slippery slope effect.

Whats next? Cant scam in local? Can only scam people who have played longer than five months?

Come on, this change is bullshit and everyone knows it.


Enough Said...