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Recruitment Scamming. Now a bannable offense.

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Lord Wiggin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2011-11-09 20:37:13 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
New Goons discover fairly quickly that posting recruitment ads in the Recruitment channel doesn't work (apparently there are a bunch of players who literally do nothing in game but sit and wait for Goons to be mentioned so they can cry about us scamming them to other players) so we just have them look for dumb people looking for a corp and then convo them privately. Business has been good lately.


I think those are actually spam bots, keyed to the word...Goon Shocked
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#42 - 2011-11-09 20:40:44 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
One of our newer members scammed 500 million from some pubbie within 30 minutes of joining Goonwaffe.

He's a goddamn Goon hero.


Cool. Hey Harlot you know I know a couple more guys like that be happy to pass on their details. If you're interest drop me over a few hundred mil ISK in good will an ill hook you up.

Hugs xoxoxooxoxo

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com
Intakani Genntelle
Doomheim
#43 - 2011-11-09 21:12:06 UTC
I support CCP's decision on this matter!

EVE Online is refreshing mainly in that you can be anti-social and scam, attack, extort, bully, etc, other players without facing repercussions to your account (ie, bans and closures). EVE Online is player driven, and thus, all consequences to a scammer come from the EVE Online community, not the producers of EVE Online.

However, because certain groups *coughahemGOONSANDTESTALLIANCEcoughahem* abuse these privileges, many other impressionable players who may not be so good at choosing role models follow suite, and there are now a plethora of "tear collection" hi-sec griefer-corps. Considering that most new players don't even make it 1 year in large part due to scammers, griefers, and the all-around anti-social and abusive play environment that (a minority) of players create for those around them, CCP has to walk on a fine line and uphold a delicate balance, bearing in mind that any given griefernoob can cancel their account/s at any given time, despite CCP doing everything they can to allow the griefing. On the other hand, many players close their accounts due to griefing.

From a business perspective, right now CCP needs to focus on retaining new players, and a big part of that is making EVE "user friendly".

For additional perspective: There are 20,000 trial accounts created each month. EVE gains how many subscribers each month..?

Also:

Quote:
Hmm, Test tears taste like Goon tears, interesting.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#44 - 2011-11-09 21:16:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Corina Jarr
EDIT: doesn't matter anymore, stupid forum...
Intakani Genntelle
Doomheim
#45 - 2011-11-09 21:20:35 UTC
Quote:
some people cannot read.


Irony tickles me pink, and you just made my day. Thank you for that.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#46 - 2011-11-09 21:22:39 UTC
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
Quote:
some people cannot read.


Irony tickles me pink, and you just made my day. Thank you for that.

Crap... quoted the wrong one... sorry about that.Oops
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2011-11-09 21:23:25 UTC
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
I support CCP's decision on this matter!

EVE Online is refreshing mainly in that you can be anti-social and scam, attack, extort, bully, etc, other players without facing repercussions to your account (ie, bans and closures). EVE Online is player driven, and thus, all consequences to a scammer come from the EVE Online community, not the producers of EVE Online.

However, because certain groups *coughahemGOONSANDTESTALLIANCEcoughahem* abuse these privileges, many other impressionable players who may not be so good at choosing role models follow suite, and there are now a plethora of "tear collection" hi-sec griefer-corps. Considering that most new players don't even make it 1 year in large part due to scammers, griefers, and the all-around anti-social and abusive play environment that (a minority) of players create for those around them, CCP has to walk on a fine line and uphold a delicate balance, bearing in mind that any given griefernoob can cancel their account/s at any given time, despite CCP doing everything they can to allow the griefing. On the other hand, many players close their accounts due to griefing.

From a business perspective, right now CCP needs to focus on retaining new players, and a big part of that is making EVE "user friendly".

For additional perspective: There are 20,000 trial accounts created each month. EVE gains how many subscribers each month..?

Also:

Quote:
Hmm, Test tears taste like Goon tears, interesting.

lol you think this is going to stop recruitment scams.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#48 - 2011-11-09 21:28:44 UTC
Some one missed the following part of the warning.

"we ask everyone to use their best judgment before contracting assets or ISK as part of corporation’s recruitment process and any deals made or finalized outside this channel are done at your own risk and responsibility."


Slade
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2011-11-09 21:37:58 UTC
Wow, wasn't aware this was Hello Kitty online, I must be in the wrong foru... oh, nope, this is EVE.

Huh. That's pretty freaking stupid. What were the CSM thinking not throwing a fit about...

Oh, they weren't consulted. At all. Of course not.


Apparently CEO Hello Kitty (throw in a "mar" there if you want, I couldn't find a spot that made sense) is unaware of what game he's actually in charge of. Wouldn't surprise me, based on how out of touch he and the upper reaches of CCP are nowadays.

What's next, being mean to each other will be bannable? Calling someone an idiot in local will get you Concorded? Oh, Oh, I know, lets just disable targeting other player ships from the hours of 12 PM to 11 AM Icelandic time, that'll make sure there's a good experience for everyone, right?

No vision, no direction, no clue. CCP 2011.
Intakani Genntelle
Doomheim
#50 - 2011-11-09 21:40:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Intakani Genntelle
Quote:
lol you think this is going to stop recruitment scams.


Reading comprehension. Get some.

Quote:
"we ask everyone to use their best judgment before contracting assets or ISK as part of corporation’s recruitment process and any deals made or finalized outside this channel are done at your own risk and responsibility."


Good for CCP, I'm glad they posted that. I'm sure it chaffes the Goons, but I've said for years: The Goons are no good for EVE, anyway.

Quote:
Wow, wasn't aware this was Hello Kitty online, I must be in the wrong foru... oh, nope, this is EVE.

Huh. That's pretty freaking stupid. What were the CSM thinking not throwing a fit about...

Oh, they weren't consulted. At all. Of course not.


Apparently CEO Hello Kitty (throw in a "mar" there if you want, I couldn't find a spot that made sense) is unaware of what game he's actually in charge of. Wouldn't surprise me, based on how out of touch he and the upper reaches of CCP are nowadays.

What's next, being mean to each other will be bannable? Calling someone an idiot in local will get you Concorded? Oh, Oh, I know, lets just disable targeting other player ships from the hours of 12 PM to 11 AM Icelandic time, that'll make sure there's a good experience for everyone, right?

No vision, no direction, no clue. CCP 2011.


Your rhetoric is pretty weak. and your bias is obvious. 4/10

CCP is not "out of touch". Quite the opposite: They are in-touch with the market and the new players that are flooding into EVE, but for some reason, not sticking around. CCP is trying to retain players. Unfortunately for Goonswarm (the stated mission of which is to grief people until they quit playing...) this may not fit their agenda and desires.
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#51 - 2011-11-09 21:41:21 UTC
Xython wrote:
Wow, wasn't aware this was Hello Kitty online, I must be in the wrong foru... oh, nope, this is EVE.

Huh. That's pretty freaking stupid. What were the CSM thinking not throwing a fit about...

Oh, they weren't consulted. At all. Of course not.


Apparently CEO Hello Kitty (throw in a "mar" there if you want, I couldn't find a spot that made sense) is unaware of what game he's actually in charge of. Wouldn't surprise me, based on how out of touch he and the upper reaches of CCP are nowadays.

What's next, being mean to each other will be bannable? Calling someone an idiot in local will get you Concorded? Oh, Oh, I know, lets just disable targeting other player ships from the hours of 12 PM to 11 AM Icelandic time, that'll make sure there's a good experience for everyone, right?

No vision, no direction, no clue. CCP 2011.


Yet another who did not read the important part of the post mentioning that recruitment scams outside of the official help channel are still allowed.


Slade
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2011-11-09 21:43:27 UTC
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
Quote:
lol you think this is going to stop recruitment scams.


Reading comprehension. Get some.

lol you still think this is going to stop recruitment scams.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Intakani Genntelle
Doomheim
#53 - 2011-11-09 21:44:29 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
Quote:
lol you think this is going to stop recruitment scams.


Reading comprehension. Get some.

lol you still think this is going to stop recruitment scams.


It's one thing to make an honest error in judgement, but now you're just being willfully ignorant.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2011-11-09 21:46:15 UTC
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
Quote:
lol you think this is going to stop recruitment scams.


Reading comprehension. Get some.

lol you still think this is going to stop recruitment scams.


It's one thing to make an honest error in judgement, but now you're just being willfully ignorant.

Okay show me where CCP has said that recruitment scams are now against the ToS and I'll apologize for my ignorance. Here's a hint: It's not in the Recruitment channel MOTD.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Intakani Genntelle
Doomheim
#55 - 2011-11-09 21:47:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Intakani Genntelle
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
Quote:
lol you think this is going to stop recruitment scams.


Reading comprehension. Get some.

lol you still think this is going to stop recruitment scams.


It's one thing to make an honest error in judgement, but now you're just being willfully ignorant.

Okay show me where CCP has said that recruitment scams are now against the ToS and I'll apologize for my ignorance. Here's a hint: It's not in the Recruitment channel MOTD.


I miss the part where I said anything about CCP making recruitment scams against the ToS. Find where I said anything about that, and then get back to me.

I'll wait. :)

In the meantime, I'll accept no less than a 500 word apology note, delivered to my in-box. (No reason to humiliate you publicly.)
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2011-11-09 21:49:00 UTC
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
Quote:
lol you think this is going to stop recruitment scams.


Reading comprehension. Get some.

lol you still think this is going to stop recruitment scams.


It's one thing to make an honest error in judgement, but now you're just being willfully ignorant.


Actually, the only reason someone hasn't spelled it out for you is that we don't want to let the shobon scam marks realize the big gaping loophole in the rules that everyone not an idiot already uses.

(Hint: Read the MOTD, you sneaky little Pubbie sockpuppet alt.)
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2011-11-09 21:50:11 UTC
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
I miss the part where I said anything about CCP making recruitment scams against the ToS.

Then why do you keep insisting that the MOTD in the Recruitment channel is going to end recruitment scamming? You are not making any sense.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2011-11-09 21:51:26 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Yet another who did not read the important part of the post mentioning that recruitment scams outside of the official help channel are still allowed.


Sssh! The more idiot pubbies that believe otherwise, the easier the marks are.

:themoreyouknow:
Jita Alt666
#59 - 2011-11-09 21:51:59 UTC
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
Quote:
lol you think this is going to stop recruitment scams.


Reading comprehension. Get some.

Quote:
"we ask everyone to use their best judgment before contracting assets or ISK as part of corporation’s recruitment process and any deals made or finalized outside this channel are done at your own risk and responsibility."


Good for CCP, I'm glad they posted that. I'm sure it chaffes the Goons, but I've said for years: The Goons are no good for EVE, anyway.

Quote:
Wow, wasn't aware this was Hello Kitty online, I must be in the wrong foru... oh, nope, this is EVE.

Huh. That's pretty freaking stupid. What were the CSM thinking not throwing a fit about...

Oh, they weren't consulted. At all. Of course not.


Apparently CEO Hello Kitty (throw in a "mar" there if you want, I couldn't find a spot that made sense) is unaware of what game he's actually in charge of. Wouldn't surprise me, based on how out of touch he and the upper reaches of CCP are nowadays.

What's next, being mean to each other will be bannable? Calling someone an idiot in local will get you Concorded? Oh, Oh, I know, lets just disable targeting other player ships from the hours of 12 PM to 11 AM Icelandic time, that'll make sure there's a good experience for everyone, right?

No vision, no direction, no clue. CCP 2011.


Your rhetoric is pretty weak. and your bias is obvious. 4/10

CCP is not "out of touch". Quite the opposite: They are in-touch with the market and the new players that are flooding into EVE, but for some reason, not sticking around. CCP is trying to retain players. Unfortunately for Goonswarm (the stated mission of which is to grief people until they quit playing...) this may not fit their agenda and desires.


You are very vocal and opinionated for a 3 day old character in an NPC Corp.
Intakani Genntelle
Doomheim
#60 - 2011-11-09 21:52:00 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Intakani Genntelle wrote:
I miss the part where I said anything about CCP making recruitment scams against the ToS.

Then why do you keep insisting that the MOTD in the Recruitment channel is going to end recruitment scamming? You are not making any sense.


Can you please point out where I claimed that the MoTD in the Recruitment Channel is going to end recruitment scamming?

Again, I'll wait. :)